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dam_is_life
27-03-2004, 07:35
wew wew, you may say it is a cliche' to talk about love, but just think? what could be more trickier than love: a strange, whimsical feeling which might ocuppy you night and days. Those who have experienced are helplessly stuck in that labyrinth, and those who haven't, cherish the secret wish of experiencing someday, under false denial of ever being in love.
so, sth pops up when I think of how little love I have (!), two issues:
- first: to love and to be loved, which would you choose, and explain why ..:))
or in other words, which do u think are more worthwhile
- second ; how do u know that you are really loved?
...

kefka
27-03-2004, 15:14
to love and to be loved => choose to love , why ? dont' you think it's abnormal that a man is being courted by some little girl ? :))
how do u know that you are really loved? => simple , when you think of someone night and day , just seeing them make you feel happy , being with them is all you need => that you're in loved :x

BROOM
27-03-2004, 17:41
yeah! she is in love with Chrono. he he he, how about you, Kefka ? you're rather old! don't tell us that you are ...ế ! it makes us know that we were right! he he he

Chrono
28-03-2004, 08:58
yeah! she is in love with Chrono. he he he, how about you, Kefka ? you're rather old! don't tell us that you are ...ế ! it makes us know that we were right! he he he Broom , she may older than me ,even kelfa . women always hide their real age , how can i figure out :)) . ooop ! i should haven't said .
you really think i suit her ưm i mean she suit me :)) ?

to love and to be loved => choose to love , why ? dont' you think it's abnormal that a man is being courted by some little girl ? yeh , i choose love . 'coz being loved , i have enough :))

how do u know that you are really loved? => simple , when you think of someone night and day , just seeing them make you feel happy , being with them is all you need => that you're in loved hey , there might be some trouble in your mind . you 've mistaken love for to be loved . ừm if that's what you wanted to write , say , how abnormal you are :))


yeah! she is in love with Chrono. he he he, how about you, Kefka ? you're rather old! don't tell us that you are ...ế ! it makes us know that we were right! he he he Broom , she may older than me ,even kelfa . women always hide their real age , how can i figure out :)) . ooop ! i should haven't said .
you really think i suit her ưm i mean she suit me :)) ? i can make her dump thought dash away ,fill her soul with happines and joy ?
it's worth for a try then ,
second ; how do u know that you are really loved?look through my eyes u'll know that someone is so in loved with you ^^

vanity
28-03-2004, 12:46
Life is too complicated. You don't have the right to choose "to love or to be love". I 'm an example. I had ever swore that i wouldn't love any man .I succeeded in keeping my swear in 20 years of my life but suddenly i liked a man , the only man i've liked so far.
The more i try to forget him, the more i miss him .Thinking of him every day. That's really a nightmare to me . Hic if i could choose i chose never being in love. I think a life without love is agreeable to me .Love just brings sorrow , pain , pressure..............
Am i in love?? i don't know. I scare the love.

Cigar
28-03-2004, 14:09
Broom , she may older than me ,even kelfa . women always hide their real age , how can i figure out :)) . ooop ! i should haven't said .
you really think i suit her ưm i mean she suit me Hmmm,I got the news for you,she was 19(I think that information is right,and no need to pretend,just like the bull cut the horn)
I can't choose..to love without the reflect love,may be bring the miserable and hopeless feeling,I don't like it.
To be love:may be,I like this way..becuase in some circumstance,I will love her,too..I f I don't like her,may be she will find another man..many men in this world is better than me,he he.

dam_is_life
29-03-2004, 01:34
to love and to be loved is different. They don;t always coincide ( hic, if only they would, life would be less complicated). Girls are advised to marry those who love them more than they themselves. Hm, I would dismiss this idea as foolish. But it is really hard to know if someone is in real love with you..eyes don;t help, they are the biggest liars, and choose to be loved to get rid of more easily is not a good idea...
hey little angle, how could I be in love with someone but ..myself..hehe, let alone I have so little love for this world..:(

kefka
29-03-2004, 09:15
opps , misunderstood again :))
how did you know when you are loved ? => this's both hard and not hard to answer :x
the guy who follow you all of the time , give you luxury presents , phone you everyday maybe the one don't know how to love you right or maybe he only want something bout you
and the guy who always staring at you sneakly in class , rarely talking to you , very shy may finally be the one who love you the most
.......
we never know what people think :x

" I succeeded in keeping my swear in 20 years of my life " , this will be more clear if i add this sentence : " people only start to love when they reach 20 years of age " :))
" Girls are advised to marry those who love them more than they themselves " => not a wise advice , you see , loved people married and they're still not happy , how can you achieve happiness if you marry the one you dont love ? how can you go with him through the rest of your precious life , it's not 3 or 4 year , it's decades :)) , of course if you dont' marry 3 or 4 husbands instead :))

Chrono
29-03-2004, 16:48
only 1 week live together ..
take 3 day to get rid of the old husband .. if you want it faster , do it like wisdows do :))
take 1 day to get a new man , 3 day to make him your hushband
1 week live together ...
a new wisdow ...:))

Cigar
02-04-2004, 18:57
Hmmm,the flower put to the bull shit(sorry),and in our social,many example for that sentence..to marry the one who love you,not the wise advise,I think so...
Love the girl and force her to live with him(he can surely know that the girl don't like it,but he still continue his blindy and crazy chase,and from the arrow of the skillful hunter,the girl can escape form it).
Bring her life to hell with only reason:you love her-->it's not true love,love is sacrifie to the one who you love,find many way to bring her the happy life..great love.
Love is not possesion,love her not mean that we must change her to our private.
Yep,the one who always shy,rarely talk with the one he loves,may be he coward,he blind man..but he love for nothing,love without any purpose,and in some way..it's true love.

dam_is_life
03-04-2004, 08:24
first, I don't get chrono's message: it sounds like a machine , humans are not machines.
second, ryt, to love is to sacrifice: good idea, and love means you don't have to say you are sorry. I like that idea too, because I am bored with excuses. If u can't do that, u can tell ur partner the truth and have no qualms over she will be pleased or not. It is the matter of course, love is the combination of friendship, feeling of security and eternal freshness, and mutual understanding ( is it too demanding????).. So, is it true that happiness, in one sense is to be loved by the one u love (!!!)( too complicatied, no wonder I can't digest this)

Cigar
03-04-2004, 16:00
But,that way has the trong point,and weak point,also.
strong:shows that he was the noble deed man..but may be some coward feature live inside it..the border between them is too thick.
But one way love-->no need to tell her,it makes they embrass,and the man can see himself the stupid man.The highest tree we climb,the more hurt we get.
Weak:don't define that,it was the one way love,or the heart to heart love,may be...she loves her,but the circumstance didn't allow her to tell that,so to heart can find reply from each other...although they think about another too much.
it was the stuck of coward lover.
They will only know about that after 5,10 or 50 years later...no one knows...

kefka
03-04-2004, 19:45
" love is the combination of friendship, feeling of security and eternal freshness, and mutual understanding "
to me love is never developed from friendship , i believe in " love at first sight " :))
feeling of security and eternal freshness => this's girls' feeling so i have nothing to say bout this :x
mutual understanding => just understanding can't make an mutual love , there's one girl , i belive i know her well but there's no love between us , wonder if her fianceé know more bout her ? :))

sacrified loving : get out get out , i hate those cheap-novel-loving , love is like a battle field , no friend , no comrade , no mercy :)) ... you love her that mean only YOU AND HER exist in your world , no more people/friend/pet/parents/teacher:))/teddy-bear... come into the scene
to me , there's no sacrified your love , only surrendered your love :))

dam_is_life
04-04-2004, 09:20
when your hear surrender then??? smell of combating. I should presume that you should not take love like that (!). If love is a battle, there will be losers and winners, and who wants to be loser? Let's take love as sth inexplicable, sth outlawed and sth we feel pleased when thinking of. Of course there must be sth mysterious enough to conquer but being exhausted when in love is not a good idea :)). Iam not daydreaming, sir

kefka
04-04-2004, 12:27
of course noone want to be a loser , but failures choose you , not you who choose them :))
" sth inexplicable, sth outlawed and sth we feel pleased when thinking of " => i didn't want to explain it either :)) , and i dare to say i will go against the whole world just because of my darling's wishing ... but your definition really seem like a rookie's :)) , have you ever fallen in love :x ?

dam_is_life
05-04-2004, 02:24
hm`, okay I am rookie or what, what about u, have u fallen in love? oai`

kefka
05-04-2004, 21:47
ah , you should ask : how many times did you fall in love ? :))
shhh ...
i dont remember , bout 2-3 times or even 1 times ???? can't be sure bout it
hey , but this's my question , why do i have to answer my own question ? was it you who have to do that ?

dam_is_life
12-04-2004, 20:17
ecstacy, elation, and then down, disappointment, love, and then hatred, enthusiasion and then "wet blanket" effect, it is like an eternal vicious circle we could never break and after each incident, suspicion and disillusion fills us up more and more

kefka
14-04-2004, 11:05
:)) you dont mention the " rapture effect " :x , when you're in love , it like you walking on the cloud , feel throwed into the fond of happiness , feel that time has stop , feel that you want to be with her forever - opps with him , i'm sorry :))
was that worth suffering the death circle after :)) ?
i experrienced both , and now i still want another try if you insist to know :))

Cigar
16-04-2004, 03:24
Hmmm,the agressive,dangerous lover like kefka,in some discuss before,he told me that,love is not mean possess,and love is not meat force her to become him.But battle field??Seems like he refused what he said before.
Ah,some example:If you love her,your enemy loves her..but your parents hates her,she can't sure what she will choose,try to win her heart,and bring her home with the bad word from parents..we need some sacrifie,don't we??
Uhh,sorry,all of you are expert lovers,not rookie like me :))

kefka
16-04-2004, 10:38
:)) , that not sacrifice , you finally be with her regardless what your parents say , right :)) ? that's more like you , i think :))
and i dont think possesion has anything to do with my battle theory , that's two different problem , you fight for your love dosen't mean you force her to be your asset :x

Artanis
16-04-2004, 11:39
to love and to be love are the two greatest things on earth to me.

Still seeking for those kind of things, he he he.

Chrono
16-04-2004, 11:45
that means you haven't ever found them yet :)) artanis ,
be carefull of kelfa , he 's not a wild animal like Cida but kidda girl-killing creature .

Artanis
16-04-2004, 11:54
yeah, kind of, I haven't found them yet. things happen all the time.

and now, in America, it's even harder when you don't even know how to say the chick's names correctly, he he he.

Cigar
16-04-2004, 12:29
Hmmm,somtimes I wonder ...what can we do at that circumstance,and I can't answer myself,I have choosed the sacrify way..but I don't sure that I was right.
But the problem is:I can't sure what I will bring to her,may be the dark and hell world,the world full with curse :))

Artanis
16-04-2004, 12:54
so basicly, you just lost just in yourself. Don't !!!

I just don't want to talk for an hour and end up with a question from the girl: what the hell are you talking about??? (he he he, I'm just kidding).

by the way, Cigarette, "sure" is not a verb, so stop using it as a verb. I don't mean anything by this, I have a lot of mistakes like this too. Just for your own good. so If I have any problem in my post, feel free to correct it.

dam_is_life
17-04-2004, 09:33
action speaks louder than words, often when in real life situation, boys can only perform at best 50 % of what they claim to be willing to do

Cigar
17-04-2004, 16:39
yes,and so did girls...
Every one have the illusion that they atre perfect,but they forgo that even the god has his own weak point
if you want to acuse some one,the same thing will turn back...
But at least,you are what you was..you talked what you thought,that's enough.

Duy_Tran
18-04-2004, 06:58
Every1 has his weak and strong points. With me, it's right. But i just try to show my normal strong points and limit my weak points. Some other characters i never show off because they are special, just let the one who actually wanna know it find it out.

kefka
18-04-2004, 12:57
chrono , you are right , dont need to war-enhance someone who was blood thirsty already , we should show cigar some more peaceful way or esle there's will be no girl left alive in this forum :))

" I can't answer myself,I have choosed the sacrify way " => you mean surrender way :)) ? opp i did it again , chrono :))

" boys can only perform at best 50 % of what they claim to be willing to do " :)) => too optimistic :)) , around 20-30 percent is more correct :)) , but where did you get this information ? experienced it yourself :x :)) ?

Cigar
18-04-2004, 13:14
you mean surrender way -->I had talked with you that,I can't asert about it,may be it right or may be wrong,I will find the answer for myself in my real life by gain more and more exp.

At least,thanks for your warning,but when the batle begin...nothing can stop it(even the awesome beauty like DIL :)))
boys can only perform at best 50 % of what they claim to be willing to do
May be 10%,or 0%..ity's up to you.
About Kefka,I think 0% :))

Artanis
18-04-2004, 13:40
yeah, that's so true, I get nervous with girl very easily.

damn !!! Prom is just a week away, got to do something.

Chrono
18-04-2004, 16:47
you all are the same , how ashamed you are .
girls were born to be protected however , they have the very ability to rule men and men rule the world therefore => girls rule the world :))

dam_is_life
18-04-2004, 19:48
0% or 50%, you all guys know best, it was just a shot in the dark , and you all are startled..should I say there is no smoke without fire..hehe

Artanis
19-04-2004, 13:31
ha ha ha, that is so true Chrono, the man is the head of the family, but the women is the neck of the family, and the neck can turn the head any way she wants to.

quote "My big fat Greek weeding"

kefka
19-04-2004, 18:36
hey artanis , have you play " prince of qin " , they translate the sentence like this : " the man is the grand pillar of the family " :)) , wonder if those american can understand what it mean when they read it :))
about the percent , shh , not only it show how man can do , it does show how greedy girl is , never can satisfy them no matter what affort we did

Cigar
30-04-2004, 12:36
Wonder where dam may roam??:))
She is the neck..sorry the pillar of our box,but she hide out somewhere now.
Kefka,another victim in your prison cells??

Chrono
30-04-2004, 15:30
Wonder where dam may roam??
She is the neck..sorry the pillar of our box,but she hide out somewhere now.
Kefka,another victim in your prison cells?? <==
dunno why she 's vanish ?
she 's already been imprisoned by bad kel :)) maybe she 's somewhere screaming for Lord Chro rescuse her :))
kel , the way you earnt MP , tsk very impressive :(|)

kefka
30-04-2004, 18:14
:)) , why do you think i was involved in dam's missing ?
to tell the truth , i thought of kiddnaping her sometimes , but she's far away so i already given it up
you should targeting someone who live in the same city , someone wants her badly :)) , someone asking bout her , ... , hey , why does this guy so much like our cigar baby :X ? or do i make a mistake ?

outcast
03-05-2004, 19:06
hm, why bother about such trivial thing..women come and women go..their style and their way ..and life still goes on.

Cigar
01-09-2005, 16:31
I like this thread,and I must pull it again....live our good front time again..it's wonderful :hug:

Moonlit Lovers
01-09-2005, 17:19
Um...... old guys's hobby, I guess o_0

ipridian_elf
01-09-2005, 17:43
I think I'll go revive some old topics too ...

dum dee dum dee dum ... ( ^-^)

wiwi
01-09-2005, 18:25
phew, and I've thought AVAVT has improved his spamming skill so much that after just three days of my absence, he could create a more-than-4-page topic :))

White_Falcon
01-09-2005, 21:47
dont know
its the start of new school year
he got jobs to do u know ::)

shadow_cat
02-09-2005, 02:31
dont know why but im being on GVN more often, maybe live in US is not busy as RUssia

White_Falcon
02-09-2005, 08:20
huh ?
may be u havent got used to USA yet , sis
any way where do u live in USA ::) ?

shadow_cat
02-09-2005, 08:49
Maryland- state- somewhere near Washington DC and NYC.
Gaithersburg- city- 1 hour driving from DC
8744 ravenglass way- nah, you dont need to know this far

White_Falcon
02-09-2005, 12:44
target engraging....
Fire !
=))
hope tat u can rest forr a lil beforre crazing going to works
and uhm u forgot to send me a image of ur light sarber , w/ some cospaly plz >:)

wiwi
02-09-2005, 18:23
if you don't mind the innocent, Falcon, I can lend you something that can destroy the whole state :))

shadow_cat
02-09-2005, 19:44
the rocket still not arrived yet.
im too busy to play cosplay with you guys.
Hope that this halloween i will find sometime to buy a costume and go around with it.

White_Falcon
03-09-2005, 14:26
@sis SC : about ur new sigh , its badly designed , sis ... the hair look gays ...
(mi opinions )

shadow_cat
03-09-2005, 14:30
look.....uhm.....GAYS?
dont give a clue

wiwi
03-09-2005, 16:57
it looks better, trust me. Guys will like it (hey, GUYS, not GAYS :)))

Moonlit Lovers
03-09-2005, 21:33
It's a girl, isn't it? What does gay related with girl? o_0

White_Falcon
03-09-2005, 21:49
nope
just mean look bad
quen mồm :p
the girl with "suffer" tag

TAT_PKN
04-09-2005, 10:21
y pplz talking out of topic? lolz this topic been around quite a long time. To love and being loved, I always think loving someone require more efforts and has more meaning. You can be loved by anyone or by mostly everyone, but not everyone you will love. Even if you can't be with the person you love, you can still feel content and joyful because you at least know what love is, and that you have someone to love, you have someone to miss. I would rather be like that then to be loved by someone I don't love.

pliskin
04-09-2005, 12:34
to love and to be loved
the word "and" means we dont have to choose one of those two. Love and to be loved are the term that only exist in theory, in real-life, we hardly see it. But people always looking for it, and that's much better.

One child
09-09-2005, 15:40
I've loved many many girls but I haven't been loved :(( :((