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[Temptation Island]

This thread I will post some questions for testing your intelligence.
(You may post a question if you want to but make sure that the previous question was answered correctly first by someone else before you post a new question. It must be a long question.)

OK! I set a first question.

In a maze, there are 3 gates. One of them is "Gate of Freedom".
There are some words next to the 3 gates.

Gate 1 said, "This is the Gate of Freedom."
Gate 2 said, "This is not the Gate of Freedom."
Gate 3 said, "Gate 2 is not the Gate of Freedom."

At least 1 of them tell the lie and at least 1 of them tell the truth.

Which gate is the "Gate of Freedom"? (1 mark)
and state your reasons. (9 marks)

(I'm testing your logic in this question. I'll give the modal answer after 24 hours.)

[Chrono]

Gate 2 : NOT a Gate of freedoom .
=> Gate 3 :is the Gate of freedoom ^he he ^

[Temptation Island]

Gate 2 : NOT a Gate of freedoom .
=> Gate 3 :is the Gate of freedoom ^he he ^[/quote]

You need to check the case 3 if gate 3 is the gate of freedom as well.
Lose 2 points.

If Gate 3 is the gate of freedom,
Gate 1 tells a lie.
Gate 2 tells the truth.
Gate 3 also tells the truth.
It matches the conditions.

Score: 7.5 marks out of 10 for Chrono.

Nice try, Chrono! OK! Next one can set up a new long question.

[Tifa Lockheart]

what the heck! this is fun man!

there's no need to check gate 3 coz we already know that at least one gate is the gate of freedom, if gates 1 and 2 are not then gate 3 must be the one.


TI, post some more! this may help in my upcoming math exam ! :D

[Temptation Island]

what the heck! this is fun man!

there's no need to check gate 3 coz we already know that at least one gate is the gate of freedom, if gates 1 and 2 are not then gate 3 must be the one.


TI, post some more! this may help in my upcoming math exam ! :D

You need to check the gate 3 as well.

OK! Next:

There are 10 bags of coins. 1 of them contains fake coins. The mass of a real coin is 1 gram. A fake coin is 0.1 gram lighter than a real coin (0.9 gram).

You can ONLY use a weighting machine ONCE to find out which bag contains fake coins. (Take 1 reading only)

How? (10 marks)

[kefka]

i want to know what kind of weighting machine ??? the one with or with out number shown on it ???

[Temptation Island]

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

i want to know what kind of weighting machine ??? the one with or with out number shown on it ???

Of course, it shows digital numbers (assume: up to 3 decimal places).

:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

[mig22]

Uh, I want to join this test.
Firstly put the number for each bag from 1 to 10
Then take 1 coin from bag 1, 2 coins from bag 2, 3 coins from bag 3, ......., 10 coins from bags 10 put on weighting machine. Total 55 gr if all the coins are not fake. And if weighting machine shows the number we can easily find out which bag contains the fake coin. We minus 55 to the number showed on weighting machine. For example if they shortage 0.5 gr, bag 5 contains fake ones.
Sorry we need only 9 bags to make this progress!

[Temptation Island]

Uh, I want to join this test.
Firstly put the number for each bag from 1 to 10
Then take 1 coin from bag 1, 2 coins from bag 2, 3 coins from bag 3, ......., 10 coins from bags 10 put on weighting machine. Total 55 gr if all the coins are not fake. And if weighting machine shows the number we can easily find out which bag contains the fake coin. We minus 55 to the number showed on weighting machine. For example if they shortage 0.5 gr, bag 5 contains fake ones.
Sorry we need only 9 bags to make this progress!

Modal answer :!:

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Do you want lying questions? OK! I setup more.

Question 1
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There are 2 paths. One of them can take you to the honest city (people only tell the truth) and the other can take you to the dishonest city (people only tell lies). You don't know which one can take you to the honest city. Suddenly, a person is on the intersection of the 2 paths. You can ask him one question only to determine which path can take you to the honest city. Which question will you ask and why? (20 marks)

Question 2
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This question is more tricky than the last one.
There are 2 guards, A and B. They are standing on each path respectively. One of the path will take you to the heaven and the other will take you to the hell. One of the guard only tells the truth, and the other only tells lies. Of course, you want the heaven one. You can choose ONLY 1 guard to ask him ONLY 1 question to determine the correct choice. Which question will you ask and why? (40 marks)

Question 3
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There are 2 boxes. One of them contains US$1 million and the other contains a bomb.

Box A's statement, "The statement of Box B is the truth and the money is in Box A".
Box B's statement, "The statement of Box A is a lie and the money is in Box A".

Which box will you open? and reasons. (40 marks)

You may answer these by sending me a private message if you don't want to tell everyone before I tell the modal answer!
You can't get full mark if you don't have full reasoning.

:?: :?: :?:

[Chrono]

Temp :i dont wanna explan fully , ít's a bout my preference .Kelfa know
tsk i haven't too much time just take for a snap .

Q1:ask him whether this is her city .
-if you 're in the unhonest city you always recive " no" answere. actually if the answerêr is the honest people they 'd say no . 'coz this 's not their city . If they are unhonest one they 'd say "no" as well ,yep this is really their city but they 're unhonest . clear ?
-wel in the honest the answeres is always "yes "
i'm tired to type just pol what you want .

[Temptation Island]

Q1:ask him whether this is her city .
-if you 're in the unhonest city you always recive " no" answere. actually if the answerêr is the honest people they 'd say no . 'coz this 's not their city . If they are unhonest one they 'd say "no" as well ,yep this is really their city but they 're unhonest . clear ?
-wel in the honest the answeres is always "yes "
i'm tired to type just pol what you want .

But both of people aren't in either one of its cities. They're in the mid-way of these 2 cities. Misunderstanding.

:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

[Chrono]

the honest city>
-if else <they aswerer is unhonest >they also show the honest city 'coz they always tell lie . alrite !?

Question 2
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This question is more tricky than the last one.
There are 2 guards, A and B. They are standing on each path respectively. One of the path will take you to the heaven and the other will take you to the hell. One of the guard only tells the truth, and the other only tells lies. Of course, you want the heaven one. You can choose ONLY 1 guard to ask him ONLY 1 question to determine the correct choice. Which question will you ask and why? (40 marks)
Here what the question you should ask : " if i ask your partern which path guide to the heaven which one would he show ? "
-If he is honest he will show you the path that not guide you to the heaven 'coz his partern <the unhonest > will show your a wrong way if you ask him .
--If he is unhonest he will show you the wrong one too , 'cause his partern <the honest > show the right way if you ask him. The unhonest always tell lie so he say contrastly.
just take the other paths
hm i must prepare for the exam anyway i dont like details . & i like to talk on my own way ^^.

[Chrono]

==Confusion !rite
If i were the man who had to choose , i would choose Box A 'cause i wanna die right now ^^ .
Let 's set the rule .

[Temptation Island]

==Confusion !rite
If i were the man who had to choose , i would choose Box A 'cause i wanna die right now ^^ .
Let 's set the rule .[/quote]

First 2 questions, you have already got 60 full marks.

OK! It means that the assumption is wrong. So, Box A's statement is a lie. Then, rewrite the box A's statement in the truth using "OR" only.

You get 4 marks for your first point. Continue it?

[Chrono]

==Confusion !rite
If i were the man who had to choose , i would choose Box A 'cause i wanna die right now ^^ .
Let 's set the rule .[/quote]

First 2 questions, you have already got 60 full marks.

OK! It means that the assumption is wrong. So, Box A's statement is a lie. Then, rewrite the box A's statement in the truth using "OR" only.

You get 4 marks for your first point. Continue it?[/quote]<MP >

hm what a bad day , this guy to stupid to be a teacher how can he treat me like that !!!
i not means anyone here , just 'cause i 've agrued with my g -teacher
A:The statement of Box B is the truth OR the money is in Box A".

B:The statement of Box A is a lie and the money is in Box A".

ya sure you rewrite correctly temp ? follow the paths
the suituation ,
there 're no exception .

[Temptation Island]

==Confusion !rite
If i were the man who had to choose , i would choose Box A 'cause i wanna die right now ^^ .
Let 's set the rule .[/quote]

First 2 questions, you have already got 60 full marks.

OK! It means that the assumption is wrong. So, Box A's statement is a lie. Then, rewrite the box A's statement in the truth using "OR" only.

You get 4 marks for your first point. Continue it?[/quote]<MP >

hm what a bad day , this guy to stupid to be a teacher how can he treat me like that !!!
i not means anyone here , just 'cause i 've agrued with my g -teacher
A:The statement of Box B is the truth OR the money is in Box A".

B:The statement of Box A is a lie and the money is in Box A".

ya sure you rewrite correctly temp ? follow the paths
the suituation ,
there 're no exception .[/quote]

There is no g-problem and not your g-problem. I want you to rewrite the box A's statement because it is part of the hints.

Don't you know that if you think that box A tells a lie, it should be:

The statement of Box B is a lie OR the money is in Box B.

(You should change the opposite as well.)

OK! Let me tell the answer:

If the statement of Box B is a lie then the statement of box A is the truth.
It contradicts.

So, the money is in Box B.

Chrono doesn't know that he opens a bomb.

[Chrono]

not ya temp^^ >!! i thought you wanna replăce the AND with the OR Boolen . so i just rewrote that & .. ye it's contrast .
Then, rewrite the box A's statement in the truth using "OR" only.

táke a looke:
A:The statement of Box B is the truth OR the money is in Box A".

B:The statement of Box A is a lie and the money is in Box A".

ya sure you rewrite correctly temp ? follow the paths
the suituation ,
there 're no exception .<MP>
okey just give 'nother quiz maybe i''l can read it on Thurs

[Chrono]

= fortunately , the Terrorist was mind-absênt he has put money into 2 box so The Chrono Take it all ^^ .

[Temptation Island]

OK! I'll give you a question about crossing river.

There are 3 dogs (A, B, C) and 3 tigers (X, Y, Z) on a shore. They want to go to another shore by crossing the river. There is only a boat which can take 2 passengers on the river. Only dog A and tiger X can drive the boat. Make sure that number of tigers can't be more than number of dogs on either shore. Otherwise, dogs will be injured by tigers. Show all the procedures (who goes and who comes back).

[ihatelhp]

2/ ABCZ <--X-- Y
3/ ABC --XZ--> Y
4/ ABC <--X-- YZ
5/ CX --AB--> YZ
6/ CX <--AY-- BZ
7/ CY --AX--> BZ
8/ CY <--AZ-- BX
9/ YZ --AC--> BX
10/ YZ <--X-- ABC
11/ Z --XY--> ABC
12/ Z <--X-- ABCY
13/ --XZ--> ABCY

[Temptation Island]

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

ihatelhp get full points. (10 points)

OK! Another one:

There are 2 irregular shape bottles. One is 300 mL and the another is 1000 mL. I want exact 500 mL of water from an unknown huge tank. How can you measure that amount of water by using these 2 bottles only? (10 marks) :?:

[ihatelhp]

Note that 5*300-1000 = 500
300ml------1000ml
300---------0
0------------300
300---------300
0------------600
300---------600
0------------900
300---------900
200---------1000
200---------0
0------------200
300---------200
0------------500

[Temptation Island]

Full mark for ihatelhp.

There are 4 switches (all switched off) in ground floor. Only 1 of them is the control of the lamp in the bedroom on the first floor. The others are out of order. You can switch on/off any switches you want but you can go to the bedroom once ONLY. How can you determine which switch is the control of that lamp?

[ihatelhp]

Hmmm, is this a tricky question? 8O
I go to the bedroom first to get the lamp out and then I try the 4 switches one by one.
Another way: I open the door of the bedroom so that I can see the light of the switched on lamp.
If they're both wrong, then I have no othe answer. :roll:

[morale]

Hehe, this is really a tricky question . I have read such kind of this question but I can't remember where . I think you miss something or wrong something . May be it is like this :
4 switches in the ground floor that turn on 4 lamps in the bedroom . You can switch on/off any switches you want but you can go to the bedroom ONLY ONCE . You must find out which switches are link with which lamps !!
You must use something about physical tricks here .
Name 4 switches are 1,2,3,4 .
First turn switch 1,2 on for a long time .
Then turn off switch 1 and turn on switch 3
After that, go to bedroom to check immediately .
The lamp which is link to switch 1 (name it lamp 1 ), is turned off and still hot .
The lamp 2 is turned on and still hot .
The lamp 3 is turn on and still cool .
The last one is turn off and still cool .
Is it right, Temptation Island ?
What will we have if we did the question right ?

[Temptation Island]

Hehe, this is really a tricky question . I have read such kind of this question but I can't remember where . I think you miss something or wrong something . May be it is like this :
4 switches in the ground floor that turn on 4 lamps in the bedroom . You can switch on/off any switches you want but you can go to the bedroom ONLY ONCE . You must find out which switches are link with which lamps !!
You must use something about physical tricks here .
Name 4 switches are 1,2,3,4 .
First turn switch 1,2 on for a long time .
Then turn off switch 1 and turn on switch 3
After that, go to bedroom to check immediately .
The lamp which is link to switch 1 (name it lamp 1 ), is turned off and still hot .
The lamp 2 is turned on and still hot .
The lamp 3 is turn on and still cool .
The last one is turn off and still cool .
Is it right, Temptation Island ?
What will we have if we did the question right ?

Nonono! My question has no problem! 4 switches and only 1 lamp not 4 lamps!

:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:
:wink:

[ihatelhp]

Ok, here's my other answer.
Firstly, I would go to the room and attach a bell to the lamp so that when the lamp is on, the bell will ring.
Hehe, after that I would return and try the 4 switches until I hear the bell ring.
:D

[Chrono]

How ? by manyway !! we all are over 171 rite ? > ,
then go to the room & wait ,due to the time when the lamp off we know wich switch is controlling the lamp .
eg :set ->
Sw 1 : 1 ' min : off
Sw2 : 2'
Sw3:3'
Sw4 :4'
if the lamp is turned off at 3rd min => Sw3
Anyway it's hard to get me to belive the fact that the in-groundfloor-Switches control the in-bedroom-Lamp . exciting to frighten some couples sharing their love ^^

[Temptation Island]

Forrest Gump, your joke is quite funny.
By the way, Oẹ... your answer is wrong!!!!
There is no auto-power-off system.

ihatelhp, your joke is also funny. Of course, WRONG!!!! No bells are necessary!

[morale]

Hehe, the answer is the same with the 4 switches and 1 lamp .
First turn switch 1,2 on for a long time .
Then turn off switch 1 and turn on switch 3 .
After that check the status of the lamp in the bedroom .
If the lamp links with switch 1 , it's turned off and still hot .
If the lamp links with switch 2 , it's turned on and still hot .
If the lamp links with switch 3 , it's turned on and still cool .
If the lamp links with switch 4 , it's turned off and still cool .
Okie ?
What will we receive if we anser right huh, Temtation Island ?

[Temptation Island]

Morale, you get it!!!!

I'm tried now! I give people chance to setup questions.

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

[Chrono]

Forrest Gump, your joke is quite funny.
By the way, Oẹ... your answer is wrong!!!!
There is no auto-power-off system.

ihatelhp, your joke is also funny. Of course, WRONG!!!! No bells are necessary!
<MP>
okey , who post first ?

[Temptation Island]

Chrono writes: Forrest Gump, your joke is quite funny.
By the way, Oẹ... your answer is wrong!!!!
There is no auto-power-off system.

ihatelhp, your joke is also funny. Of course, WRONG!!!! No bells are necessary!
<MP>
okey , who post first ?

<Another MP>

Then, why don't you post a new question? :?: :?: :lol:

[morale]

Hey, so who's the one will setup the question ? Without them, does this topic value ? ( sorry Temptation Island, hehe ) .
Chrono, you and Temptation Island have a lot of spare time so please do it . We will have thing to enjoy in free time .

[Chrono]

he he who said i have alot of time huh , i'm hunger of time now , i only have 15 min for a day .
Wel Who set this topic ?! ^^ , we 'd better take a break . Tomahawk you should let us know the points that we had got , & then post a new Q ' cause i have much time on Thurs ,

[Chrono]

Tomahawk post a new now >

[Chrono]

DA n,
Here 'a another Q :
Once upon time , there wêre two Genie-Girls they were Twins .The youger sis named : Maya
the older sis : Melissa
Nobodycould know who was the Younger Sister & who was the Older one even their father .They 're so beautiful that ev'ry man would desire ,but only the man who Recognize them can be married with them . The sis always told lie on Monday , Tuesday & Wendsday, the Younger sis didnt tell truth on Monday, Wednesdaỷ& Saturday.
if man wanted to have a chance , they 'd beg two gilrs for a meeting ,if he recognized them he would marry two ! but if not it will brings him an instant DEATH .

Time passed quickly but they did Not get old !! Once , there came a Handsome Young man to their village . He was so suprised when he heard this story & wanted to know more so he went to meet the Twins ..
Of cause the young man was Chro ^^ he asked one of them :
Chro : "now Would you plz tell me who the hell are you lady " ?^^
Sis No1 : i'm Melissa
Chro: "And what 's date today ?"
Sis No1 : yesterday was Sunday
suddenly the other girl interuppted :
No2 : Tommorow is Friday!!
Suprised Chro , he asked : " Are you sure "
-No2 : Yes , in Wednesday i always tell the truth .
Chro was imazed .., they really made Chro Confused at a moment, but as soon as their sign was released Chro knew !! yep Not only Chro knew Who was Melissa & Who was Maya but also Knew What the date was on that day !.!

<hm it took me 'bout 20 ' min to type & remmember plz dont disapoint me >

[Temptation Island]

Today is Monday. -- (B)
suddenly the other girl interuppted :
No2 : Tommorow is Friday!! -->Today is Thursday. -- (C)

Today is not Monday because both of them tell lies (B is the truth).
Today is not Tuesday because Maya tells the truth (B, C are lies).
Today is not Thursday because both of them tell truth (B is a lie).
Today is not Friday because both of them tell truth (B, C are lies).
Today is not Saturday because Melissa tells the truth (B, C are lies).
Today is not Sunday because both of them tell truth (B, C are lies).
It must be Wednesday. Both of them tell lies.
So, A is a lie.
So, 1 is Maya, 2 is Melissa.

[Chrono]

No2 : Yes , in Wednesday i always tell the truth . <--
Chro was imazed .., they really made Chro Confused at a moment, but as soon as their sign was released Chro knew !! yep Not only Chro knew Who was Melissa & Who was Maya but also Knew What the date was on that day !.!

[Temptation Island]

Today is Monday. -- (B)
suddenly the other girl interuppted :
No2 : Tommorow is Friday!! -->Today is Thursday. -- (C)

(D)
Suprised Chro , he asked : " Are you sure "
--->No2 : Yes , in Wednesday i always tell the truth . <--

From (D), it is obviously a lie because both sisters tell lies on Wednesday. If it is on telling truth day, it should be "I always tell lie on Wednesday."
Today must be No. 2's lying day.
Thusday, Friday and Sunday are impossible.

Today is not Monday because both of them tell lies (B is the truth).
Today is not Tuesday because Maya tells the truth (B, C are lies).
Today is not Saturday because Melissa tells the truth (B, C are lies).

It must be Wednesday. Both of them tell lies.
So, A is a lie.
So, 1 is Maya, 2 is Melissa.

The answer is still the same.

[Chrono]

Today is Monday. -- (B)
suddenly the other girl interuppted :
No2 : Tommorow is Friday!! -->Today is Thursday. -- (C)

(D)
Chrono wrote:
Suprised Chro , he asked : " Are you sure "
--->No2 : Yes , in Wednesday i always tell the truth . <--


From (D), it is obviously a lie because both sisters tell lies on Wednesday. If it is on telling truth day, it should be "I always tell lie on Wednesday."
Today must be No. 2's lying day.
Thusday, Friday and Sunday are impossible.

Today is not Monday because both of them tell lies (B is the truth).
Today is not Tuesday because Maya tells the truth (B, C are lies).
Today is not Saturday because Melissa tells the truth (B, C are lies).

It must be Wednesday. Both of them tell lies.
So, A is a lie.
So, 1 is Maya, 2 is Melissa.

The answer is still the same.
<MP>
Okey , who 's the next ?

[Temptation Island]

OK! This one is quite simple.

How many faces at minimum does a piece of paper have?

(Think about it.)

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

[ipridian_elf]

umm... tricky question ... at first glance, I will tell that there's two faces, but the question will then be too simple, so that means that you want me to answer two so I will get wrong, but it's too obvious that the paper have two faces, so the answer should be two. But then why will you post a too simple question like this one ?????

OK, after 2 hours, I'll say that the answer is two !

[Temptation Island]

umm... tricky question ... at first glance, I will tell that there's two faces, but the question will then be too simple, so that means that you want me to answer two so I will get wrong, but it's too obvious that the paper have two faces, so the answer should be two. But then why will you post a too simple question like this one ?????

OK, after 2 hours, I'll say that the answer is two!

I know that a piece of normal A4 paper has 2 faces.

Did you consider the word "at minimum"?

Let other people think about it. :wink: :wink:

[ipridian_elf]

Did you consider the word "at minimum"?> that means that the answer is <2, it can't have 0 face at minimum, so 1 ?

[Temptation Island]

Did you consider the word "at minimum"?> that means that the answer is <2, it can't have 0 face at minimum, so 1 ?[/quote]

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Yes, you're right. The correct answer is 1.

Can you explain why the minimum is 1?

[ipridian_elf]

than 2. The number can't be 0 (becoz if it's zero, then it wouldn't exist)
It must be a positive number.
------> it's 1 !

(but I don't know the main reason why)

New question (this one is really hard, think twice before you give the answer) (I'm posting it now, because maybe I will forget about it later)

There's a girl who is selling potatoes in VN. Every day, she walks on a bridge to go to the other side, selling her potatoes. She receive every day 100000 VND. And she always brings 50 potatoes, which are all sold after sunset.
The question is, how old is she ? (really hard, but it's ummm maybe a little bit logic, well, umm maybe not really that logic, but, it's a tricky question)

2nd new question : (this one is a logical test question)

****<- A* ||
*** B~ ||
** C* || D~

Okay, A, B, C and D are all wielding a hat. There are two black colour hats (shown as *), and there are two white colour hats (shown as ~). They don't know what colour is their's hat's color. A,B,C and D are all facing the same direction, which is shown with the arrow (left).
the ||
||
|| thingy is a wall, so D cannot see A,B,C 's hats
A can see B and C, but not D 's hats. B can see C's but not A and D's, and C cannot see anybody hats.
They are asked to give their hat's color.
We know that the color of each one is like in the graphic, but they do not know this order that we know.
After a long long time, someone announce his hat's color.
Which one ? and Why ?

[Temptation Island]

-- C* B~ A* || D~

C and D can't guess because they can't see the others.

If B and C wear the hats which are the same colour, A will guess it as quick as possible.

But after a long long time,

B knows that A doesn't guess, so, he knows that his hat must be different colour as C, so, B guesses it.

quote:
First I said 2, you said wrong and you said "consider the word minimum"
So, the answer must be < than 2. The number can't be 0 (becoz if it's zero, then it wouldn't exist)
It must be a positive number.
------> it's 1 !

Other people don't believe it. You must find an evidence to show that there is a piece of paper which has only one face. Yes, it exists in this world.

[ipridian_elf]

Right TI ! (that answer was really fast, I think you knew this question already before)

I can't find any sort of paper which has only 1 face. (Maybe the one sticked on a table ?)

[Temptation Island]

Right TI ! (that answer was really fast, I think you knew this question already before)

I can't find any sort of paper which has only 1 face. (Maybe the one sticked on a table ?)

OK! I give you an answer. It is a Mobius Band.

:idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea:

[troc]

hé hé that's a good one. It looks like this
http://www.cpm.informatics.bangor.ac.uk/sculpmath/imagesm/klsmob.jpg

Heheheh this proves that math is power :lol: This surface has 1 side hehehe funny I can see how it works but I still don't understand you can see 2 sides but it's only 1 :wink: I think I need to get a piece of paper and twist it around to see if I can make this :wink:

[ipridian_elf]

I can still see 2 sides on troc's drawing, and it also doesn't exist. (nope, I tried for 1 hour to make this sort of mothing band)

[Temptation Island]

Yes, it has only 1 face not 2 faces.

Use a piece of slip and twist it.

The Mobius Band really exists.

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

[troc]

heheheehe you still can't see 1 side? Ok make one and use your fingers to trace around see how many side? I still don't know why I see 2 sides but trace around it's 1 side. Weird, maybe because of the twist.

Here is how you do it, easy only need a pieace of paper and some tapes:

- Cut out a pieace of paper and make a long thin rectangle, bend it to connect one end with the other.
- Place an X on both ends of the strip on the same size.
- Paste the ends together.

This might not clear but all you need is make something looks like the above picture and put an X or some mark then trace around it. :lol:

[Temptation Island]

OK! Another one:

There are 15 oranges and 4 plastic bags.

You need to put oranges in each plastic bag and make sure that the number of oranges in each plastic bag must be an odd number. How?

[troc]

ez, put 15 in 1 bag and put that bag in another one, that in another one and that in another one. (4 bags together) each has 15 oranges inside that's an odd #

[Temptation Island]

There are 3 parent elephants A, B, C, who have their own child elephant a, b, c respectively. They want to cross the river. There is only one boat which can only take 2 elephants. Only all parent elephants and a child elephant a (small letter a) can control the boat. When a child elephant doesn't stay with its parent on a shore, the other parent elephants will hurt it.

How do you command them and make sure that all elephants are safe?
(Show me who will take the boat and who comes back each time)

[troc]

The orange thing is right?

I didn't understand the question at first but after about 5 minutes reading it I got it :lol: I guess I'm slow in reading haha.
Let's call side 1 is where they were and side 2 is where they want to get to.

Ok, first take B go with b on the boat to side 2. Put the little b on that side and B comes back to side 1 (b is alone on the other side no one can hurt it). B comes back and goes with a. Then B and a go to side 2. B stays and a comes back to side 1. Now on side 2 there are B and b.

a comes back picks A to side 2, puts A at side 2 and comes back to side 1. Now side 2 has B, b, A (no little kid gets hurt because a is on the boat not on the shore). a comes back and pick C to side 2. Drop C at side 2 and comes back to side 1. Now side 2 contains B, b, A, C. Side one only has c and no other elephant can hurt him. (a is on the boat so he's still safe). a picks c up and go to side 2. Both arrive and side 2 will have all elephants. :wink:

[Temptation Island]

The orange thing is right?

I didn't understand the question at first but after about 5 minutes reading it I got it :lol: I guess I'm slow in reading haha.
Let's call side 1 is where they were and side 2 is where they want to get to.

Ok, first take B go with b on the boat to side 2. Put the little b on that side and B comes back to side 1 (b is alone on the other side no one can hurt it). B comes back and goes with a. Then B and a go to side 2. B stays and a comes back to side 1. Now on side 2 there are B and b.


Then, B will hurt a in side 2.

**Mission Failed**

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Try again!

[ipridian_elf]

whoa, nobody answered my 1st question ?
I'll tell the answer then, her age is 15.
Can you give the reason why ? (it's not really that logical, but if you think really hard, you'll find the answer :mrgreen: )

[Temptation Island]

New question (this one is really hard, think twice before you give the answer) (I'm posting it now, because maybe I will forget about it later)

There's a girl who is selling potatoes in VN. Every day, she walks on a bridge to go to the other side, selling her potatoes. She receive every day 100000 VND. And she always brings 50 potatoes, which are all sold after sunset.
The question is, how old is she ? (really hard, but it's ummm maybe a little bit logic, well, umm maybe not really that logic, but, it's a tricky question)

and then:

whoa, nobody answered my 1st question?
I'll tell the answer then, her age is 15.
Can you give the reason why? (it's not really that logical, but if you think really hard, you'll find the answer :mrgreen: )

--------------------------------------------------------------

What? It can only shows that each potato costs VND 2000.

I don't think that MENSA will give you such a question as part of its intelligence test!

[ipridian_elf]

hehe, did anyone think really hard for two days ? :mrgreen:
ok, don't jump on me to cut my head off when I say why ok ?
she is 15 years old, becoz, ...... I know her, she lives near my house. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
*ipridian_elf hides away*
:mrgreen:
No, I don't think that MENSA will give that question too. :mrgreen:
I told you that it is not that logical. (so don't blame me, blame the canadians instead) :mrgreen:

[troc]

What are you talking about temptation? B goes with b first to the second shore, then B comes back goes with a ON THE BOAT and then B gets off with b on the second shore. YOu din't say on the boat the B can hurt a you said on the shores only :lol:

[Temptation Island]

What are you talking about temptation? B goes with b first to the second shore, then B comes back goes with a ON THE BOAT and then B gets off with b on the second shore. YOu din't say on the boat the B can hurt a you said on the shores only :lol:

Let's read the bolded sentence:
There are 3 parent elephants A, B, C, who have their own child elephant a, b, c respectively. They want to cross the river. There is only one boat which can only take 2 elephants. Only all parent elephants and a child elephant a (small letter a) can control the boat. When a child elephant doesn't stay with its parent on a shore, the other parent elephants will hurt it.

Look at your sentence:
B comes back goes with a ON THE BOAT

and then you say:
YOu din't say on the boat the B can hurt a you said on the shores only

a doesn't stay with A on a shore (because A is on a shore, a is on the boat), B will hurt a (B and a are on the boat).

When the boat is on-shore, then, B and a have already been on the second shore. So, B can hurt a on the second shore.

In conclusion, B can hurt a.

[troc]

If 'B' goes with 'a' to the second shore, when they reach, B will go down and 'a' takes the boat back, B can't hurt 'a' because 'a' is on the boat now, B is on the shore they are not on the shore at the same time. Unless B can hurt a while they are on the boat.

[Temptation Island]

When a child elephant doesn't stay with its parent on a shore, the other parent elephants will hurt it. -- (A)

you said,
If 'B' goes with 'a' to the second shore, when they reach, B will go down and 'a' takes the boat back, B can't hurt 'a' because 'a' is on the boat now, B is on the shore they are not on the shore at the same time. Unless B can hurt a while they are on the boat.

Did I say that "except on the boat" in the statement A ? No.
If your statement is right, then statement A should be

When a child elephant doesn't stay with its parent on a shore, the other parent elephants will hurt it in shores only except on the boat.

In fact, the underlined phrase is redundant.

That's all what I said. In general, mission failed. troc, please try another way instead.

[troc]

You said on the shores but don't say include on the boat. They are two different things. It would be better if you say When a child elephant doesn't stay with its parent on a shore and/or on the boat, the other parent elephants will hurt it. This 'and' operator is important, especially in computer science :lol: Anyway let me try a new way then:

First side 1 has A, a, B, b, C, c
Take a and b to the other side (side 2)
b stays there a takes the boat back. Side 2 now has b only.
A and a go from side 1 to side 2
a stays, A goes back. Now side 2 has b and a
A and B from side 1 to side 2
They (A and B) stay and a takes the boat back. Side 2 now has A, B, b
a comes back to side 1. C and c step on to side 2. A takes to boat back to side 1. Side 2 now has B, b, C, c.
A comes back and pick a to side 2.

If this doesn't work, just solve it :lol:

[Temptation Island]

Although you MUST take a and b to the side 2 first but

Then A will hurt b in side 2.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Try again!

[troc]

oh man, when b is on side 2 and a and A comes, A never gets to the shore, A is on the boat all the times and drop a with b then how can A hurt b

[Temptation Island]

oh man, when b is on side 2 and a and A comes, A never gets to the shore, A is on the boat all the times and drop a with b then how can A hurt b

I know A is on the boat, if the boat reaches side 2, then the boat will be on side 2. So, A is on side 2 as well. When A can't see b's parent on side 2, A will get off to hurt b.

[PrincessJill]

Just to show you I'm not blinded by this game's greatness, I'll pick something to complain about. The writing could have been done a little bit better. There, I found something. Actually the story is great, but the Square folks tried to make some of the characters have accents through writing. Someone speaking with an Australian accent is fine, but reading it can be a bit tiresome. Also, a character named Korcha seems to end every word with 'CHA, as in "Korcha joinedCHA your party." I don't get it. I guess it's to show quirkiness, but it comes off as a bit annoying. That is really being nit picky, but I felt obliged to complain about something.

[PrincessJill]

As impressive as the graphics are, the sound stands out as the best on the PSX. The soundtrack is amazing in both execution and composition. The background music is keyed to each area, and it adds to the general atmosphere. In a sea-side town, a medieval tune may play, and in a cavern, an ominous dirge may sound. The little things like water splashing and footfalls in hallways are equally well done, and while they may be overlooked, they'd certainly be missed if they were gone. There is actually nothing to complain about in the sound department. A rarity in these graphic-obsessed times.

[PrincessJill]

The technical accomplishments in Chrono Cross are as outstanding as the storyline. The in-game graphics are outstanding. The polygon characters interact surprisingly well with the hand drawn back grounds, and the overall presentation is amazing. Some areas are extra-impressive, with cloud animations and flocks of birds adding to the environments. Similarly, areas like the inside of a castle are cold and impersonal. A lot of time was spent planning and drawing these areas. In combat, the spell effects are mind blowing. There are a ton of different spells, and each one has a unique animation that really captures action. Everything, from the mundane fireball to the impressive Gravitone spell, is shown in high quality animation. These spells look devastating. You can tell that someone will be hurting after a meteorite comes crashing down on them. Square's art team is the best in the business, and this game really shows off their talent.

[PrincessJill]

While the sound and the graphics are both top notch, Square is famous for both. What really sets this apart from the other great Square RPGs is the combat system. It's a turn-based system, but it's modified to allow a little more user interaction. Rather than simply pushing the attack option, and choosing an opponent, the player can choose between one of three intensities of attack, each with its own hit percentage and damage. All of this can be done on the fly, creating a very fluid and active combat process. Attacking isn't the only overhaul in the combat. In lieu of a spell system, Chrono Cross has an element system, which is a lot like a traditional spell system, only much more detailed. Each character has an innate color. Each element also has an innate color. If these colors are the same, the elements damage or healing effect will be greater. If the target of an offensive element is of the opposite color of that element, the damage will be greater as well. On top of that, there is a field effect meter on the screen that records the colors of the last 3 elements cast. This effects element damage also. It makes for a many-tiered, very deep combat system. It's a huge break from the classic hit a button and wait methods of combat.


Just to show you I'm not blinded by this game's greatness, I'll pick something to complain about. The writing could have been done a little bit better. There, I found something. Actually the story is great, but the Square folks tried to make some of the characters have accents through writing. Someone speaking with an Australian accent is fine, but reading it can be a bit tiresome. Also, a character named Korcha seems to end every word with 'CHA, as in "Korcha joinedCHA your party." I don't get it. I guess it's to show quirkiness, but it comes off as a bit annoying. That is really being nit picky, but I felt obliged to complain about something.


This game is a masterpiece. There's no other way of explaining it. Few games receive this much advance hype, and even fewer live up to it, but Chrono Cross is a rarity. Its an amazing game in every aspect of the word. The last great PlayStation game? Probably not, but this is the best PlayStation RPG that I've played, and anyone with a fleeting interest in RPGs should pick this up. Bravo Square!

[PrincessJill]

While the sound and the graphics are both top notch, Square is famous for both. What really sets this apart from the other great Square RPGs is the combat system. It's a turn-based system, but it's modified to allow a little more user interaction. Rather than simply pushing the attack option, and choosing an opponent, the player can choose between one of three intensities of attack, each with its own hit percentage and damage. All of this can be done on the fly, creating a very fluid and active combat process. Attacking isn't the only overhaul in the combat. In lieu of a spell system, Chrono Cross has an element system, which is a lot like a traditional spell system, only much more detailed. Each character has an innate color. Each element also has an innate color. If these colors are the same, the elements damage or healing effect will be greater. If the target of an offensive element is of the opposite color of that element, the damage will be greater as well. On top of that, there is a field effect meter on the screen that records the colors of the last 3 elements cast. This effects element damage also. It makes for a many-tiered, very deep combat system. It's a huge break from the classic hit a button and wait methods of combat.


Just to show you I'm not blinded by this game's greatness, I'll pick something to complain about. The writing could have been done a little bit better. There, I found something. Actually the story is great, but the Square folks tried to make some of the characters have accents through writing. Someone speaking with an Australian accent is fine, but reading it can be a bit tiresome. Also, a character named Korcha seems to end every word with 'CHA, as in "Korcha joinedCHA your party." I don't get it. I guess it's to show quirkiness, but it comes off as a bit annoying. That is really being nit picky, but I felt obliged to complain about something.


This game is a masterpiece. There's no other way of explaining it. Few games receive this much advance hype, and even fewer live up to it, but Chrono Cross is a rarity. Its an amazing game in every aspect of the word. The last great PlayStation game? Probably not, but this is the best PlayStation RPG that I've played, and anyone with a fleeting interest in RPGs should pick this up. Bravo Square!

[Temptation Island]

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OMG! A bunch of spamming here!

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[ipridian_elf]

Really annoying ! Princess Jill !
Earth calling Hank Huynh, Earth calling Hank Huynh, moderator needed. :( :(

[Temptation Island]

Really annoying ! Princess Jill !
Earth calling Hank Huynh, Earth calling Hank Huynh, moderator needed. :( :(

I know that each bad post can be 10 EXP deducted instead of 3 EXP. I think that admin should be called as well.

If I were a mod in this forum, I would do that.

:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

-10 Exp: Quá sức tưởng tượng, hết ý kiến
-10 Exp: Beyond my immigration, viewless, speechless

This thread has a Guiness record!
It has a first post which was 10 Exp deducted in this English box.
Congratulations, Temptation Island (because he started this thread)! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Of course, I'm NOT supporting spammers!
By the way, Hank Huynh and other admins, please don't delete Spammer Jill's posts. I want to keep them as an evidence!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Temptation Island]

c,A,B,C --> a,b (a and b go)
a,c,A,B,C --> b (a comes back)
A,B,C --> a,b,c (a and c go)
a,A,B,C --> b,c (a comes back)
a,A --> b,c,B,C (B and C go)
a,b,A,B --> c,C (B and b come back)
b,B --> a,c,A,C (A and a go)
b,c,B,C --> a,A (C and c come back)
b,c --> a,A,B,C (B and C go)
a,b,c --> A,B,C (a comes back)
c --> a,b,A,B,C (a and b go)
a,c --> b,A,B,C (a comes back)
--> a,b,c,A,B,C (a and c go) FINAL!!!

(B and C can be swapped)

[Chrono]

wạth the hell ? could anyone tell me what prince Jill want to say ? it seems 'bout Square soft & their product , tsk too long to read , sorry if i said it 's rather eyesord , he wrote a walkthrough ,didnt he ?

[troc]

No I believe he just copies from some other places (not sure why or any purpose of that). Eh you live at 600 pennsylvania avenue DC? That's too close to the White House :lol:

[ipridian_elf]

)
Or some points can be deducted from your xp. :)

[Chrono]

No I believe he just copies from some other places (not sure why or any purpose of that). Eh you live at 600 pennsylvania avenue DC? That's too close to the White House hehe really ? next đoor to the White house ? :shock: i couldnt belive i have a such honour like that :) anyway according to your post ..
i did not know that the place where i live has another name ^^ ,

[troc]

Why is that an honor, there are lots of other houses around, buildings .... But the White House is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, if you need to visit or send bombs that's the address :lol:

[Temptation Island]

This one is a little bit difficult!

There are 12 coins. 1 of them is a fake coin. You don't know whether the fake coin is lighter or heavier than the real coin. You can only use the balance 3 times to find a fake coin and determine that whether the fake coin is lighter or heavier than a real coin. How?

(Of course, I know the answer because I setup this question!)

[Temptation Island]

[Bump this thread]

Nobody answers!

OK! I give you a hint:

First, you put 4 coins on both sides of the balance...

(I hope it'll help you!)

[Chrono]

you 'll know the fake coinê
else ;
repeat 1 till you see ..

[auron baximus]

B and A>B

if A=B, replace B by C you can say the fake coin is lighter or heavier

if A>B, so C will has to equal A or B, try replacing B by C, if A=C then B has the fake one (heavier) otherwise A>C then A has the fake (lighter)

If A<B, do the same thing, if A=C, B has the fake (lighter), if A<C A has the fake (heavier)

[Temptation Island]

you 'll know the fake coinê
else ;
repeat 1 till you see ..[/quote]

When will the balance change? It can be used up to 11 times in the worst case. I said that 3 times at maximum.

well... i tried it last night and i don't think i need the 3rd time?!?!? weird...

first divide 12 coins into 3 group... A, B and C

put A and B on the balance... there will be 3 possibles A=B, A<B and A>B

if A=B, replace B by C you can say the fake coin is lighter or heavier

if A>B, so C will has to equal A or B, try replacing B by C, if A=C then B has the fake one (heavier) otherwise A>C then A has the fake (lighter)

If A<B, do the same thing, if A=C, B has the fake (lighter), if A<C A has the fake (heavier)

Hey, man. You're finding a group of 4 coins.

Both of you are "mission failed"! Try again!

[auron baximus]

hey... you just ask the fake coin is lighter or heavier than the real one... and i can answer right? you didn't ask to show which one...

[Temptation Island]

hey... you just ask the fake coin is lighter or heavier than the real one... and i can answer right? you didn't ask to show which one...

Read the question again:

There are 12 coins. 1 of them is a fake coin. You don't know whether the fake coin is lighter or heavier than the real coin. You can only use the balance 3 times to find a fake coin and determine that whether the fake coin is lighter or heavier than a real coin. How?


Did you read the bolded sentence carefully? I said that you need to FIND A FAKE COIN AND determine that whether the fake coin is lighter or heavier than a real coin.

[trungthan]

When will you give the answer? Please hold on, i almost have the answer.

[Temptation Island]

When will you give the answer? Please hold on, i almost have the answer.

I will give hints instead.

By the way, if you know the answer, show me.

Hints:
1. Put 4 coins on both sides of the balance.

2. If 8 coins are different masses, then put 3 coins on both sides of the balance, which 3 coins? how? Determine it yourself.

[trungthan]

I knew it. i stuck at that. i can give you the right answer for the first part now(in case 4 coinson both side are balanced). I'm finding the right for the rest. You are from Australia? sydney? i'm from Brisbane, just finished my exams so have no time to finish your bloody hard question! Just wait!just 1 more day,

[trungthan]

fake coins in the rest 2 coins(c3,4)
compare c3 and a real coin; if equal--> c 4, otherwise c3
1b, c1+c2 # 2 real coins --> compare like above, c1 and the real coin--> can find the fake coins.
We also know whether it is lighter or heavier than the real by checking the compair of the fake and the real one!
I will continue this tomorrow,... sorry about that!

[trungthan]

B ( As A&B are 4 coins from a group of 12 coins so which group is heavier called A)
We take 3A and weight with 3C ( real coins)
2a, 3A#3C(we will know the fake coin is lighter(3A<3C) or heavier(3A>3C)and the fake coin will be in3A)
*/ case1: fake coin lighter than real coin
Compare A1 and A2,equal -->A3 fake coin
if A1>A2--> A2 is fake coin otherwise A1
*/ case 2: fake coin heavier than real coin.
As case one we can find the fake coin.
2b, 3A=3C
We can guess that 1. fake coin is heavier and in the last A
2. Fake coin is lighter and in the group of B
Totally we have 5 coins last with some conclude above with only ONE balance time.
I really gave up and wait for your answer. You are really gunius if you can create this quiz !!!! Time for showing your answer. and give more quizs!

[Temptation Island]

fake coins in the rest 2 coins(c3,4)
compare c3 and a real coin; if equal--> c 4, otherwise c3
1b, c1+c2 # 2 real coins --> compare like above, c1 and the real coin--> can find the fake coins.
We also know whether it is lighter or heavier than the real by checking the compair of the fake and the real one!
I will continue this tomorrow,... sorry about that![/quote]

About the case 1a, you don't know c4 is lighter or heavier.


2. If A>B ( As A&B are 4 coins from a group of 12 coins so which group is heavier called A)
We take 3A and weight with 3C ( real coins)
2a, 3A#3C(we will know the fake coin is lighter(3A<3C) or heavier(3A>3C)and the fake coin will be in3A)
*/ case1: fake coin lighter than real coin
Compare A1 and A2,equal -->A3 fake coin
if A1>A2--> A2 is fake coin otherwise A1
*/ case 2: fake coin heavier than real coin.
As case one we can find the fake coin.
2b. 3A=3C
We can guess that 1. fake coin is heavier and in the last A
3. Fake coin is lighter and in the group of B
Totally we have 5 coins last with some conclude above with only ONE balance time.


For case 2b and case 3, you don't know which coin in group B or another coin in group A is fake.

[trungthan]

I gave up! Please give us the answer for that!

[trungthan]

s wrong and not pursuasive. Please post the answer as soon as possible and give us another answers!

[Temptation Island]

E+F+G+H)

2a. A+I vs. J+K (given that A is a real coin)
Balanced, read 3a, else read 3b (suppose A+I is heavier)

2b. Take out A, C, E
B+F+I vs. D+G+H (given that I is a real coin)

B+F+I>D+G+H, read 3c (balance is still the same)
B+F+I=D+G+H, read 3d (equal value)
B+F+I<D+G+H, read 3e (balance moved to another side)

3a. M is a fake coin. Measure it with any real coin to find the relationship.

3b. J vs. K (they are lighter coins).
J>K, K is a lighter fake coin.
J=K, I is a heavier fake coin.
J<K, J is a lighter fake coin.

3c. B (may be heavy), G (may be light), H (may be light)
Measure with G and H (result is similar with 3b)

3d. A (may be heavy), C (may be heavy), E (may be light)
Measure with A and C (result is similar with 3b)

3e. F (may be light), D (may be heavy), I (real light coin)
Measure with F and I (result is similar with 3b)

[Temptation Island]

One day in a cafe, a guest enters and order a meal and chat with the boss of the cafe.
Boss: I have 3 children.
Guest: How old are they?
B: The product of their ages is 72.
G: The detail is not good enough.
B: You go outside and you can find the shop number of this cafe, which is the sum of their ages.
G: Still not enough.
B: My youngest child likes eating salted chicken.

Question: Find the combination of the boss' children' ages.
(Hint: all 3 numbers are integers)

[auron baximus]

agh... give up with you question... too lazy to have a thought... but i'll give you guys my own...
the rabit and the turtle challenges each other in another race... the rabit says it's faster and want to defy the turtle a distant of x... both start at the same time.... tell me who steps on the finish line first and ...explain of course
not a hard one... may be you have done it... hihihi

[Temptation Island]

One day in a cafe, a guest enters and order a meal and chat with the boss of the cafe.
Boss: I have 3 children.
Guest: How old are they?
B: The product of their ages is 72.
G: The detail is not good enough.
B: You go outside and you can find the shop number of this cafe, which is the sum of their ages.
G: Still not enough.
B: My youngest child likes eating salted chicken.

Question: Find the combination of the boss' children' ages.
(Hint: all 3 numbers are integers)

OK! I give you some hint:

These combinations are satisfied for the first condition:
72 1 1
36 2 1
24 3 1
18 4 1
18 2 2
12 6 1
12 3 2
9 8 1
9 4 2
8 3 3
6 6 2
6 4 3

and I don't think that the first 5 combinations make any sense by looking at the first number.

[Hung Long]

I don't think 1 year old or 2 year old kid would like to eat that. That means the youngest age for a child has to be 3. Since there is no twin, the only possible number left is 6 4 3.

[Temptation Island]

I also ate salted chicken when I was a child.

By the way, Hung Long, no!

Think about these statements:
B: You go outside and you can find the shop number of this cafe, which is the sum of their ages.
G: Still not enough.

and the following combinations included sums:
12 + 6 + 1 = 19
12 + 3 + 2 = 17
9 + 8 + 1 = 18
9 + 4 + 2 = 15
8 + 3 + 3 = 14
6 + 6 + 2 = 14
6 + 4 + 3 = 13

[Jupiterkt]

Who can demonstrate for me : 2 = 1 ? You must use math , not literature

[Temptation Island]

I also ate salted chicken when I was a child.

By the way, Hung Long, no!

Think about these statements:
B: You go outside and you can find the shop number of this cafe, which is the sum of their ages.
G: Still not enough.

and the following combinations included sums:
12 + 6 + 1 = 19
12 + 3 + 2 = 17
9 + 8 + 1 = 18
9 + 4 + 2 = 15
8 + 3 + 3 = 14
6 + 6 + 2 = 14
6 + 4 + 3 = 13

OK! Let me tell you the answer! As you can see, if the guest says it is not enough which means that there are more than 1 combination of the sum of their ages. Read the possible list, you can find that 8,3,3 and 6,6,2 have the same sum of 14. The last hint mentions that his youngest child likes eating salted chicken. It means that the combination must have only one minimum of age. So, the combination should be 6, 6 and 2.

[auron baximus]

so... the sum of 14 is the shop number of that cafe? how come? I still don't get this point... ?!?!?!

[Temptation Island]

so... the sum of 14 is the shop number of that cafe? how come? I still don't get this point... ?!?!?!

Did you read the dialogue? The boss gives a hint that read the shop number of the cafe which is the sum of their ages. The number will be either of following with the combinations:

12 + 6 + 1 = 19
12 + 3 + 2 = 17
9 + 8 + 1 = 18
9 + 4 + 2 = 15
8 + 3 + 3 = 14
6 + 6 + 2 = 14
6 + 4 + 3 = 13

The guest said that it is not enough for him to find out their ages. It means that there are more than 1 combination such that they have the same sum. As you can see, there are 2 combinations such that the sum is 14. So, the guest reads the number 14. (I bolded them.) Otherwise, the guest won't say 'not enough'.

[Temptation Island]

This one may be quite easy. This question is from a Institute of Logical Thinking in Berlin, Germany in 1987. 98% of candidates can't answer this.

Situation:
1. There are 5 houses in a row.
2. The houses are different colours.
3. The owners of each house come from different countries.
4. The owners have different pets, drinks and bands of cigarettes.

Hints:
1. The British lives in the red house.
2. The Swedish has a dog.
3. The Danish drinks tea.
4. The Green house is left of the white house.
5. The owner of green house drinks coffee.
6. The owner having "Pall Mall" cigarettes has a bird.
7. The owner of yellow house has "Dunhill" cigarettes.
8. The owner of the house which is located in the middle drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The owner who has "Blend" cigarettes lives in the next of the house whose owner has a cat.
11. The owner who has a horse lives in the next of the house whose owner has "Dunhill" cigarettes.
12. The owner who has "Bine Masier" cigarettes drinks beer.
13. The German has "Prinee" cigarettes.
14. The Norweigan lives in the next of the blue house.
15. The owner who drinks water lives in the house whose owner has "Blend" cigarettes.

Question: Who (in nationality) has a pet of fish? (Draw a table for you to help and show it as well!)

[Temptation Island]

Nobody answer? Let me tell the answer

From statement 9, 14, 8, 4, 5, you can show that

1. Norwegian
2. Blue house
3. Drink milk
4. Green house, coffee
5. White house

From statement 1 and 7,

1. Norwegian, Yellow house, Dunhill
2. Blue house
3. Red house, milk
4. Green house, coffee
5. White house

From 11,
1. Norwegian, Yellow house, Dunhill
2. Blue house, horse
3. Red house, milk
4. Green house, coffee
5. White house

From 3, 12, 15
1. Norwegian, Yellow house, water, Dunhill
2. Danish, Blue house, horse, tea, Blend
3. British, Red house, milk
4. Green house, coffee
5. White house, Beer, Bine Masier

From statement 2 and 13,
1. Norwegian, Yellow house, water, Dunhill
2. Danish, Blue house, horse, tea, Blend
3. British, Red house, milk
4. German, Green house, coffee, Prinee
5. Swedish, White house, Dog, Beer, Bine Masier

From statement 6 and 10,
1. Norwegian, Yellow house, cat, water, Dunhill
2. Danish, Blue house, horse, tea, Blend
3. British, Red house, bird, milk, Pall Mall
4. German, Green house, ***, coffee, Prinee
5. Swedish, White house, Dog, Beer, Bine Masier

Therefore, the German has a pet of fish.

[lính vũ trụ]

we can't! next time, give us others?

[Temptation Island]

we can't! next time, give us others?[/quote]
I can't because I'm a Chinese speaker not a Vietnamese speaker.
All of my questions are translated from Chinese to English.
Sorry, I can't help but I may find some easier questions!

[Chrono]

we can aswer you nomatter what it is Vn ,chinese or English but time ,
give us some short Question ,

[Temptation Island]

OK! I give you the mathematics question:

BM, Dracula, Hung Long and Johnny are in the canteen.
BM has 7 hamburgers, Dracula has 5 hamburgers, Hung Long has 4 hamburgers, Johnny hasn't brought any hamburgers, so he must ask them for some.

These are the following conservation:

Johnny: I'm very hungry. Can I borrow some hamburgers?
BM, Dracula and HL: OK!
BM: We decide to share the hamburgers such that we have the same number of hamburgers but Johnny, you must pay for the hamburgers you eat.
Johnny: OK! Deal!
Dracula: Hey, 2 days later, it is SweetKitty's birthday.
HL: Dracula, BM and me decided to join her birthday party.
BM: Each of us had already paid 200,000 VND for it. Everything were bought.
Johnny: I want to join as well.
HL: OK!
Johnny: I'm busy now! I need to leave. I put down 190,000 VND here. It is enough for your hamburgers and the party! Goodbye! See you in SweetKitty's birthday.

Question: How much money should each person get from Johnny's 190,000 VND?

[[H][K]]

What the hell are you giving, isnland ?
That money is for the presents or for the hamburgers ?
And Dracula is in VN so he cant buy any hamburger you drug dealer, muahauhauhauhauh :lol:

[Temptation Island]

oly_[K]night"]What the hell are you giving, isnland ?
That money is for the presents or for the hamburgers ?
And Dracula is in VN so he cant buy any hamburger you drug dealer, muahauhauhauhauh :lol:

1. I had already edited the post from the last Johnny's sentence in conservation.
2. Stop taking drugs now!
3. It is only a primary school maths.

Answer the question now!

[congminh]

How are we supposed to know how much Jonny need to pay for all the hamburgers he ate???
Anyway, I thought that Jonny had eaten totally 4 hamburgers. Three of BM's , one of Dracular's. So the money BM will get back equal to the prize of three hamburgers, and same way for Dracular. Is that correct?

[Temptation Island]

How are we supposed to know how much Jonny need to pay for all the hamburgers he ate???
Anyway, I thought that Jonny had eaten totally 4 hamburgers. Three of BM's , one of Dracular's. So the money BM will get back equal to the prize of three hamburgers, and same way for Dracular. Is that correct?[/quote]
The price of hamburger can be calculated.
Yes, you're right. Johnny took 3 hamburgers from BM and 1 from Dracula.
Hint: part of 190,000 VND from Johnny's is for party and another part is for hamburgers.

[[H][K]]

I stii dun understand the 200 bucks ? It said each person paid 200 or BM, HL, and Dra paid 200 ?

You should edit this part:
HL: Dracula, BM and me decided to join her birthday party.
BM: Each of us had already paid 200,000 VND for it. Everything were bought.
Johnny: I want to join as well.
HL: OK!

so i can understand it, handsome boy :lol: :lol:

[Temptation Island]

oly_[K]night"]I stii dun understand the 200 bucks ? It said each person paid 200 or BM, HL, and Dra paid 200 ?

You should edit this part:
HL: Dracula, BM and me decided to join her birthday party.
BM: Each of us had already paid 200,000 VND for it. Everything were bought.
Johnny: I want to join as well.
HL: OK!

so i can understand it, handsome boy :lol: :lol:

Please read the sentence (esp. bolded part) again. It obviously said that each person paid 200,000 VND.
By the way, 15,000 VND per a buck, it should be 13.3 bucks. :lol:

Please read the previous page. The question is there.

[[H][K]]

1 person = 600.000/4 = 150.000 (each)

=>Johnny gave 150.000 for the presents

=> 190.000 - 150.000 = 40.000 (4 burgers)
=> 1 burger = 40.000/4 = 10.000 (each)

Each burger cost 10.000 and as BM gave Johnny 3 burgers so he took 30.000 and Dracula took 10.000 for a burger he fed Johnny :lol:

This is damn easy you handsome boy :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Temptation Island]

Yes, you make a lot of correct reasons but you don't draw a correct conclusion.

Yes, you're right here here.

30,000 VND for BM's hamburgers
10,000 VND for Dracula's hamburger
I know 150,000 VND for Johnny's present.
The problem is who keeps that 150,000 VND?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Buhahahaha.. So you guys spend all 2 pages discussing the O-level riddle? I just saw the question last minute, without looking at your discussion, and, hmm, little brainstorming.., is it correct, dear Temptation?
-BM(what the hell is this) received 80k.
-Vampire received 60k
-The Vietnamese received 50k.

It has been long until I see this fun. I'm bored with studying differentiation, permutation, integration.. in English.

[[H][K]]

Ok dude, wanna taste me huh :lol:

150.000 Johnny paid for presents.

BM, Dra, HL each already paid 200.000
The max amount of money is 600.000

So when BM, HL, Dra got more 150.000 from Johnny, they would share that money for 50.000 each.

Is that ok now, SIR ? :lol:

[Temptation Island]

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
If I combine 2 Holy Knight's answers + Anaconde the Reaper's answer together, it is completely correct.

:!: :!: :!:

[[H][K]]

Fuk uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, i didnt copy his answer. I was totally correct. Muahahuahahuahauhah. Now give me the reward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Meeeeeeeeetoooooooooo
If the reward is good, I'll tek revenge if ya don't share atleast half of it to me
Bwuhuhuhahaha...

[Temptation Island]

It should be:

40% from Holy Knight's 1st post
50% from Holy Knight's 2nd post
10% from Anaconde the Reaper (the conclusion)

[Anaconde the Reaper]

The reward must be 100 rods, hehehe, but I don't take it cos I don't like it. So, 90 rods for HK, 10 others for Temptation, wahahahahaaa,

[Temptation Island]

It has been long until I see this fun. I'm bored with studying differentiation, permutation, integration.. in English.
I'm studying partial differential equations and double/triple integrals.
Of course, it is in English as well.
I'll post some more questions soon.
Anyone can setup questions here.

[troc]

hâhhhaha temp me too diff equa is kinda hard. Multivariable calculus is easy. =D> where does reaper live anyway? I'm sure not vietnam. Maybe we could solve each other's math problem here. hehe it's interesting and you help people aroudn too. Also get exp >:-D<

[Chrono]

hâhhhaha temp me too diff equa is kinda hard. Multivariable calculus is easy. =D> where does reaper live anyway? I'm sure not vietnam. Maybe we could solve each other's math problem here. hehe it's interesting and you help people aroudn too. Also get exp >:-D< then .. why don't you begin Tóc ?
tommorow i have to go to new brain shool for my first year ,
everybody are to be busy on study , maybe only you who can help B-)

[troc]

OK I'll begin, but right now I don't have any questions on those hehe. Maybe I'll post them when I work on my homework. :cool: Forum these days seem to be less new post right? B-) I see the reason.

[Temptation Island]

Who can try this one?
Integrate the function of exp(x^2).

[troc]

too ez, you can't integrate normally but you can use polor coordinate set S x^2 Sy^2 eventually u'll get integral of S r dr and then integrate.

There's no way you can do normally but you can use polar. X^2 + y^2 = r^2 then it will be ez. >:-D< if u need the prove I think I have to go through my notes haha but just use that formula and go on.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Hey fools! You like to talk about problems, but I see there is no brain in it. That integral is a basic one, you can find it in any "basic" book. No need to tell the answer again, hah!
OK, any "smart" guy want challenge huh? Lord Anaconde has somethin' for ya:

There is a number, N. You cut it in to some parts (like 100 = 50 +20+20+5+4+1). Find da way to cut that number so that the multiplication of those is the most. (e.g 5 = 2.5+2.5, 2.5*2.5=6.25,largest of all, 3*2, 2.1*2.9,4*1, 2*2*1, 3*1*1....). DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
I know you are old ones. But I only accept the fact "old beats young" if you can solve this problem. Well, I studied calculus myself two, three years earlier than normal programs. Of course any guy want to beat me in physics huh? Tell me now, thats my major!

To troc: I am not in Vietnam, thats true, I have left my country just 3 weeks ago, wa, the math, phys, chem,.. study in the Uncle Sam is too easy. Oh god, I want to have somethin more challenging..

[troc]

ặc ặc very scary B-) that integral is actually not "basic" because it requires multivariables with x and y or polar coordinates. :)) basic calculus book (single variable won't have it he' he'. Actually I studied calculus 2 back in high school. Plus, nobody "waste time" to challenge with you because everyone has a job or something else to do. This is just a question that people post and need to be solved. It doesn't intend to test your skills, it's a question! If you know it, answer, if you don't, then don't reply.

Archon: Physics is your major but it's ok, nobody wants to challenge you anything =D> (anyway the smart guys never say they are the best in anything). he' he'
I'm very old. What school are you in anyway?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

What school? My last school is HNAMS-Phy1class, and now -- you shouldn't know, you wont know. Dear little troc, guess am I in highschool now or not?
I saw you changed your last post, what book exactly did you "copy" that answer? I don't need your books, I don't have time. Still I am busy with programming. If you are good at that, help me: write a Win program, or find a way, that can read equations and calculate it (e.g x*(sin(x)-tan(x))...). This thing sucks me a lot(I dont have any book or help program).

[troc]

haha I never changed my post @-) so I don't know what u r saying. Anyway, download mathlab and do any equations :)) they are helpful in drawing 3, 4 ... dimensions graph ...

And I don't copy answers, I invented answers haha. B-) How do you look to see who changes the post anyway? i never knew that or how do u even change your post?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

You idiot! I am not downloading those things. I want a program code, in any language, but best is VB or Pascal. Those craps I downloaded long ago, quite good looking, have lots of stuffs. But their graph programs are even worse than mine. Thatswhy I need one for myself. You tell those things have capabilities? Well, graph this equation for me, and post your answer. If you do, I'll appreciate it(my program does it "ngon ơ"):
*******************
Forget your 3,4D graphs, haha, just a 2D one..

[troc]

for that, you don't even need mathlab haha, you can just use your calculator TI 86 or TI 89 or something will do it. Mathlab is very powerful B-) solve diffrential equation that is impossible to do by hands. Solve anythign haha, but you have to buy the software. My school provides for free. Solve anything ... Oh yeah if I graph that how do I suppose to put it up? HOW? I graph it by my keyboard? You can't right click in math lab to save it, you can only print it!

>:-D<

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Little boy, I have a lot of programs that can solve differential eq, integration, hypogeometric functions... complicated complexity!! Don't "khoe" your little program. But I only want you to graph my simple eq. Graph it, print screen, and attach it to your post. OK? That shows your words are true. Otherwise you are just a liar
Or if you idiot dont know how to printscreen, just tell the shape of it. Tell the x,y intersections.

[troc]

he' he', I guess you never heard of that matlab. The most powerful tool in solving problems that is used widely in US university systems. >:-D< If ur in a university, you should know this. What you want me to print screen? My webcam pic? :)) I look kind of nice though.

Anyway, I don't care if you believe me or not (because it doesn't matter) so... if u never heard of it when it's so popular ... I don't know why. Go to google and type mathlab and it will show you how to get the program or something like that or info that you want about it. Why would I sit there and figure out how to do your problem just to prove that mathlab exist, you can do simple search to find out.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Hey dixie pig, I know what that is, allright? I only want you big fat liar tell the shape of that graph (its not complex anyway). I dont need printscreen.
And you think that your matlab is the most popular? You wrrroongg! It is good, but there is one, which is twice better. The best mathematic software in the world. I suppose you are in some "hang cùng ngõ hẻm" to never heard of that, so you dont deserve to be told ...

[troc]

hắc hắc, I guess you believe it exists, then I don't need to do anything. Since you know it exists. It's true that I am spending my days and night under a bridge with no home :)) but at least I got a lap top to go to this forum. I'm just saying mathlab can do those graphs and things, why you get so excited? Whatever the other program is, it maybe good. At least mathlab is used in universities and that's why it's good. And how can I tell you the curve? what if I input it wrong or something. I still don't know many commands in mathlab. What I'm saying is you can use it to do many useful things that's all, don't get excited.

[troc]

when I have a problem using mathlab and graphings then I might consider doing your problem as a practice problem :)) now I'm just using it to solve vectors :)) faster than hands haha. By the time I get to graph, I'll let you know and maybe post your graph up.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Wa ha ha, now I know that even a "popular" math program can not do a simple thing. I know, dear troc, 99.99..% graph programs don't have the capability to sketch graphs of equations, it only sketch y=f(x), and however that is not perfect. Example, you use any graph programs to sketch y=sin(1/x), you will get a wrong result at points near zero. Same reason for y=fix(x)(it means "lấy phần nguyên"). My powerful handmade tool pass it all. Graphs are perfect. I am developing 3D graph, but time is limited, and I also have little reference. Next year, maybe..
Dont find reasons to escape your fool, nothing is perfect. Your matlab is good, it still have boundaries that cant be solved. I beg you cant use matlab to integrate this function: sin(x^x)dx. Even Mathematica, the most powerful math tool on Earth.

PS: You still have little knowledge about these math tools. Did you know Fermat's last theorem? You are in that position.

[troc]

ặc use ezplot (equation) then you can graph anything B-) with out puttingi y (x) = something hahaha. mathematica my school has it too, but nobody is using it. Because there are people who invented mathlab which is better. You can use anything with mathlab. and can integrate anything. :)) I just don't know how to use all the commands. Let me ask someone who teaches mathlab commands to do S sin(x^x) dx then I'll tell you the result. But first I'll try my calculutor, if it works in my calculator then I won't even use mathlab :D

ok there are boundaries but still ... your thing whatever you invented can't be better than what others' unviersities professors invented right? My point is mathlab can do tons of jobs for you and you just need to know the commands. Of course nothing is perfect and does everything on earth right. How am I using reasons for my foolishness as u said? what part was that? Don't get it. What was the reason? My point is mathlab can do it, doesn't mean I can do it?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Matlab is a tool not for math only, it have several parts. Generally, mathematica is much more powerful in math itself.
Dont run away from me, you still dont understand, fool!
Of course math workbook allow you to type your equation, but it must be in the order. You can type that eq y^4-.... but you get no result at all. You are old but not wise.
I invent something, I know what am I going to invent. I am great because of that. Professors invent what people want to be invented, and what they think it is possible. Equation graphs are not possible in someways, so they dont invent. But I did. Because I know what should be done.
I am not on my comp, I cant printscreen and give you my shot of the graph. But after I set da internet in my new home, I will. My laptop is a store of the weirdest things on earth.

However you make me so depressed of your ability. You have that powerful tool, and dont know to use it!! And dont know of its capabilities too. What is in your head. I learn a new computer language program without book or tutor!

PS: Dont try to run, show yourseft, face to face, I dont need you TI calculator, or anything else, just tell me the shape of the eq. Otherwise you are only to be called .... That TI calc, in exams I use my fx800 calc I can solve problems faster! The graphs it makes are to be called "bad and hopeless", I can sketch graph myself.

[troc]

Let me make this brief since my post is gone after I put it up, don't know why haha. First of all, you don't know my age, so don't know what u talking about me older than you. I'm in university doesn't mean my age is same as regular students or something like that. :D Second, I just wanna tell you that learn the commands in mathlab and it will help you do stuff, this doesn't mean I know / have to do it. Third, I don't get your point of running away or face to face or whatever? Face to face on what? Make it clear and clean. We're not challenging here. I'm telling you something that can help you solve problems, use it if you need. Don't use it if you feel your program is better. Simple, not a chellenge game, understand? Why did you put the equation of a graph up to let me solve when you already know how to do it (I assume what you said about your computer is true)? Why would we challenge using program / whatever to do things? That's no help. I'm taking math classes and just start using mathlab, so I'm learning the commands, this doesn't mean I know all so by the end of the course, I'll be comfortable using it.

By the way, don't tell me that you are the best in something because nobody ever said that in history and it's true :)) If ur good, there are plenty of better people. IF you are better in your field than others doesn't mean you are better in other subjects.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Little boy, I guess you are twenty, are you not? Thats old enough I think.

You did not understand anything I have said! I mean, why do you have to learn a program when you are capable of exploring it by yourself at home? I in one hour discovered most of the things in any software like that. :cool:

And, where did I tell I am the best? Where did you find it? May be I did(where?), but, I never tell I am the best when I am in such a decent conversation. OK, you should know that I always understand, scientists created powerful programs, they run on powerful computers, and those are not for a fool. In some ways, I'm a fool, you ofcourse are, and you can never get those. Thats why I have to make one that has the capability. And also you dont know anything about me. What do you think I think? You made me laugh :)) when you told those foolish things about "best".

Because you, old wicked little troc, tried everything to escape my question though if what you said were true you could do it rightaway. I for one do not ever do that coward thing. I hereby give the graph of the equation I created, and open your eyes, wicked one: X(

[troc]

you must be one of those blinds.

didn't you say this
"Of course any guy want to beat me in physics huh? Tell me now, thats my major!" doesn't that tell you re saying ur the best?

And also, every post you have is very "humble". I admire that :)) maybe because u haven't seen any good people around u, that makes u think so :))

You did not understand anything I have said! I mean, why do you have to learn a program when you are capable of exploring it by yourself at home

what does that mean? Learning a program and exploring it? Aren't those the same? what's the difference? I'm taking the math class that requires programming with mathlabs. Of course I have to learn it. How do you know I don't explore at home? This tells me much a bout u. Let me give u back your quote
And also you dont know anything about me. What do you think I think?

I have this big book full of commands how to program and steps, just type in and it gives me the graph, or I can come to school, uses matlab and asks professors about how to graph your little thing. But what's the point of that? (by the way u never answered this question) That proves machine does it, not me. If I give u a graph and tell u to do it, you will use a machine called computer or whatever u have to solve it. No point. If I give u a problem and tell you to do, you won't be able to do it anyway. For example, how about u grpah a 4-d graph. No point of that. This is not a challenge place. Do I need to repeat that again since u never seem to get it.

[troc]

Little boy, I guess you are twenty, are you not? Thats old enough I think.


and also, I'm not that old :)) B-) imagine u might be around that he' he'. Anyway age doesnt matter. There are 10 years old kids in college and there are 60 years old grandfather in college. Doesn't matter.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Hey, don't make me bored of you! Talk somethin' more acceptable! I said thats my major it means its my best not I am the best at it! And I told anyone here "beat" me, that means no one in this E.forum is better than me at it, not the other people from other places - you think I am so arrogant to compare myself with some professors? Thats silly, you misunderstood a simple sentence..

OK I am so "sorry".. you are taking a matlab course, sneezzz.. If it is required to take the course, I say nothing, but you take the course and haven't get a simple procedure of the program, thats a shame! How long have you taken that course?

And again, you dont know the meaning of a real challenge. I challenge someone, that mean I understand everything I challenge, I did challenge myself first, AND, I know you have enough knowledge of what I challenge. If u r good, u could have done it easily. But u r not. u have to "ask professors" to do it. Because, even u know it you can not do it urself. If you can not, dont get around, just say " I can not do it", dont find reasons. If I give u a graph and tell u to do it, you will use a machine called computer or whatever u have to solve it. No point.
Well, you are still in darkness. I am in despair. I use the machine called computer to solve something, it does by my command, my instruction. If you say that, all scientists in the world create machines to show that they can not do? Wrong! They do, because they create machines and machines do. It is so simple, I dont want to waste time solving some petty problems, so I write a program to do that. Its still my work. if you cant, you use matlab, its matlab do it, the position changes: you become a machine to follow the instructions!!!! Dont be a thing like that. Where is yourself?

[troc]

OK I am so "sorry".. you are taking a matlab course, sneezzz.. If it is required to take the course, I say nothing, but you take the course and haven't get a simple procedure of the program, thats a shame! How long have you taken that course?


You must be dum, almost every high level math classes converges with computer, require using matlab to solve problems ... I'm in the first high level matlab so I just started it. There's no such course that just teaches matlab. It's like a software. Do you go to classes teaches dos, how to use windows or words, excel? It's part of the program. You just need to learn it through the books and use those commands as you go in your math class to do problems.

I never compared u to college professors. What I'm saying is they create programs to do things. And it should be better than your programs. Use the better ones to solve your problems, don't use it if you don't want. Understand? By the way I can graph 3-d, or 4-d graphs myself using the commands I learn.

First, how do you prove that those programs / graphs that was created by u? What if someone does that and u just steal it and then say its yours, there's no prove. ONline u can't challenge none. Second, I can say that I can do anything with matlab using commands I learned. of course I have to learn it through books and professors, but then I understand it and will be able to use it.

Now that u say u don't want to do my problem because something, isn't that just a reason? I never meant to challenge you or be challenged by u. Since the beginning I said use whatever to do your problems, why u starts to go into the challenge part? And now u run away too because my problem is pity? And u were saying to me don't give reasons? eh contradict yourself there.

I learn commands and use it to solve problesm, that means I use it to do something for me, not the other way around like u said. Just like programming, u don't need to know how to write some functions, just need to use it to do your problems. I don't need to create a program to do my problems, I understand the commands to do it and I still get a result.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Hey, don't make me angry with you, paltry little troc! Who said I flee from you? Your misunderstanding of simple E. grows tiresome...
If u want to defeat someone, remember: u must be able to do that thing yourself, and u must know that the one u challenge must have enough knowledge. Yeah I dont refuse that I haven't got any idea of 4d graph, BUT, every other things I know I am able to do them all. You know and you cant do it, you are bad. You get your knowledge for NOTHING.
Well, you seemed to get upset with the "matlab class" - hehehaha - without realizing I juz jokin'(haha) - and still not get what I said. If you just learned it, don't get mad - because I don't consider it. If you have learnit for 2++ months and still be a dummy, that is a shame(exactly how long have you learn it?).
And, for sure u dont believe the graph was mine, that is easy to understand. When you dont like som'thin' ya dont believ'it, hah, no way to let ya believe, just waste time.
Again you prove that you are a passive student. That kind of student is what I hate most. I can never stay calm with som'thin' until I have broken every boundaries.. When a theorem without prove, I try to prove it.. a program does somthin, I try to think how it does,.. Simply, sometimes i can, sometimes not, thats life! I did prove e^iq = cosq + isinq - and many others, I am proud of that. That is how I make my life better. You are a year-3 college guy, I am sad of that, hix. I dont want to argue any more of these, OK? May be your head is so different from mine, we have different ideas, way of thinkin'. Anyway, continue your study, be a nice man on moon!

[troc]

If u want to defeat someone, remember: u must be able to do that thing yourself, and u must know that the one u challenge must have enough knowledge. Yeah I dont refuse that I haven't got any idea of 4d graph, BUT, every other things I know I am able to do them all. You know and you cant do it, you are bad. You get your knowledge for NOTHING.

hé, did u see what I wrote up there? I know how to do it. So what u said here is invalid =D>
You don't do my problem because of whaever reason, isn't it just reason?
And, for sure u dont believe the graph was mine, that is easy to understand. When you dont like som'thin' ya dont believ'it, hah, no way to let ya believe, just waste time.


This is exactly what I'm talking about. Online, u can say you don't belive I did, I can say I don't believe u did it. What's the point? Waste of time right? Why u start the whole challenging and put problems up? See what I mean? What if I ask someone to do it and say I did it, you believe? Or what if you do the same thing? No point right? We should never had been this far since the first question someone posted.

Eh it seems every thing you guess about me is wrong :)) I'm not third year, I haven't learned it for 2 months ... Too bad. I'm above my math level doesn't mean I'm in 3rd year. But I know that I'm not the only one so I don't say stuff. There are little kids who are in my level. Of course If you can do many things like prove, learn new languages that's good. Try to keep it up. But doesnt' mean others can't do it and don't think ur the best.

By the way prove e^iq = cosq + isinq isn't hard. You can just use Taylor's expansion for e^iq whish turns out to be 1 + iq + iq^2/2! + iq^3/e! ...
after that do a little work you'll see it's (1 - p^2/2! + p^4/4! ...) + i(p-p^3/3! = p^5/5! ...) and so on the 2 bolded text add to up cos q + isin q.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

You idiot, i proved e^iq=cosq+isinq when I was in the 11th grade and didnt learn any about Tailor's expansion! Of course ya in college year 3, ya learned that, that doesnt make any sense when ya solve it that way. That prove may be found in any book --> dont write it here – I did it the 12th grade way. By the way, if ya think your prove is too good, please, prove Tailor's expansion for me, and also prove Maclaurin series for me too --> That is a complete prove. Go find your books and look for the solution, wahahahaha

U r so foolish when thinking I guessed something. I didnt guess, I just made you upset, and you were in the passive way when trying to refute a joke. I dont care ya in 2, 3, or 4 year college, and I didnt care ya above math level or something (what is above math level?), I just made ya upset, wahaha

hé, did u see what I wrote up there? I know how to do it. So what u said here is invalid
You don't do my problem because of whaever reason, isn't it just reason?
Well, ya still make me soo depressed. Ya seem to never get to the point. You can do it, ofcourse, but because ya were taught the knowledge to do it, right?(by the way, who teaches you 4d graph now?) I havent been taught, and haven't read about it. Why do I have to do it. Imagine you when you were 2 years ago, I gave you a 4d graph, DO IT! Silly! TRY to realize! Ya can't tell a 6 year old boy to do a 3rd grade problem! He is no bad, u r the bad. Bring that problem and tell one of your classmates to do it. However, what grade do you get in your classes? Good? If good, that's good.

Repeat: challenge only happens when we have the same background knowledge. I know you have, I challenge you. You don’t have, I wait until you have then I will challenge you. So, I will crush your petty 4d graph into ashes in 1 -> 3 years. And after college, we will have the same background, I will crush YOU into ashes also. Never tell that to me again, because this day or that day you will see.

The last thing. I wouldnt have gone this far, just because of a tiresome guy, he tried to find every reason to escape a simple fact that he can't do an under-grade question, and the last best reason he had found was that he don't believe. I dont need you to believe, because now I see u r a hard-headed petty guy – not the kind I am looking for. I have a lot of other people better than u who believe. For sure ya still know I made the thing, just because of some proud and –envy- which made you tell me so. I’m not stupid not to see through you – and don’t find other reasons! Don’t make yourself a fool! It’s just envy – and everyone has it. Not except you.

[troc]

First of all, I'm not upset of anything, just telling you that so u understand. You don't know me, I don't know you, no need to upset. Maclaurin is just a special case of taylor's series. Your problem u just need to expand e^iq and then manipulate to make it looks like cos and sin 's expansion. I don't need to tell you more. Hmm, didn't u learn through books and other sources? If not where do you get the background? Hmm those series just come out from your head? By the way I didn't copy from books, I just remember that problem I did in 12th grade. See the point I made, when I did something, u said I use other sources, then I can say your graph too. Isn't it the same case?

Repeat: challenge only happens when we have the same background knowledge. I know you have, I challenge you. You don’t have, I wait until you have then I will challenge you. So, I will crush your petty 4d graph into ashes in 1 -> 3 years. And after college, we will have the same background, I will crush YOU into ashes also. Never tell that to me again, because this day or that day you will see.

Good then, by that time I might no have time to go online haha. (didn't we agree that can't challenge online?) /:) Why would you tell me that I hide from your problem when u don't even do mine? So ... maybe you're older than me. I dont' know. haha, u made the things or whatever isn't my point.

After college we will have the same back ground is wrong. You might be in different major than mine (as u said physics) then your background in some classes will be more than mine and my backgrounds in some classes will be more than you. Why does that matter? Learn to challenge people? That's your point of learning?

[troc]

However, what grade do you get in your classes? Good? If good, that's good.
Forgot to answer that B-) since I was born until now I never had lower than an A average in math. more than 12 consecutive years, is that enough? But I guess that's a myth to you so I don't have to prove it. In fact can't prove through this so no point. And also, my mood is the opposite of upset as you said cause through this conversation we gain lots of exp and hp, mp hahahaha.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Luckily you didn't make me sooo bored this time.. Oh well, I just wrote a extremely long post, and I am still tired to answer you.. wa wa...

I dont discuss any more about those challenge or something, you will never realize..
And what I said, I asked you to prove the Tailor-Maclaurin series- prove it, not use it. Did you understand.. Try to expand it into sin cos is a baby job, ha.... sneezzz.
I don't feel any happy with exp or mana... I don't care about that stupid thing - you write more means you are better? --> (>_<). And I am having max mana since yesterday, so write long is nothing... Have fun with your mana... And don't try to guess my age, you think I am talking like a baby or an old man, oh silly... I am immortal with the time - the Immortal Demonic Grim Reaper (wahahahahaha.....) sixty years +- 10 later, I will cut your head whatever you will be and execute you for your disloyalty, wahahahahahaha....

[Anaconde the Reaper]

I have a new question (this one is an easy one - below 10th grade)

Let 1/a + 1/b + 1/c + 1/d = 1, a,b,c,d are positive integers.
Find a,b,c,d such as a+b+c+d is maximum.
Because this is an easy one, so you should have 10 minutes - get your watch and see!

[troc]

haha why you stilll posting questions up? forever? you still didn't get the idea of challenging? Why you still try to challenge? What is the point as you said. You really make me think u r a sick mind with the way you talk
the Immortal Demonic Grim Reaper (wahahahahaha.....) sixty years +- 10 later, I will cut your head whatever you will be and execute you for your disloyalty, wahahahahahaha....
eh that thing ... sounds like a movies or something.

I guess I couldn't solve your problem then because I wasn't in 10th grade haha. Anyway let me try hmm this won't take 10 mins I'll just give it a shot
1/2 + 1/3 + 1/8 + 1/24 = 1
2+3+8+24 = 37 is it right? I was gonna take 10 mins but since I have no time :)) I'll use this post only (about 25 seconds for the problem) and will u keep posting questions? what is that point of that? alright not everyone can do every single problem soooo think again.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Wa ha ha ha ha ha, you think you are so smart? Ha, that is what people called - big-headed - I am so sorry but you get the wrong answer! Come on, you are a third year university student taking advanced math program, and you missed a simple one.

sounds like a movies or something.

Bad sentence, awful mistake.

haha why you stilll posting questions up? forever? you still didn't get the idea of challenging? Why you still try to challenge? What is the point as you said. You really make me think u r a sick mind with the way you talk

You idiot, this topic is "Can you answer this question or not", so what is wrong if I post a question? I post here let me post how dare you say that? If you can't answer, tell you can't dont give reasons!!

And, I post this question is not for you, but for other people also. some guys here are still small, they may not solve hard one, so I post the one they can do. You prune-headed understand?
And now try to solve it again. I have to say this is only a special case with n=4 of a general problem: 1/a1 + 1/a2 +....+1/an where a1 to an are pos.integers. You made wrong this one, don't tell me you can ever solve the general one, ha ha ha. :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

[troc]

ok then keep posting it and I'll let others answer your question since I answered it you either say it's wrong or I copied from book if it's right, so either way u'll be against my answer. And read again, I never said I'm third year =D> Taking advanced math doesn't mean can solve every single problem. Understand? There are teachers who can't do some problems so of course I can not solve every problem, but what I did is solve your little prove that u thought it was hard and then u said I copied, and now I solved your problem u said it's wrong. Stop talking about third year, tire of that, I'm not in 3rd year. I'll wait for your answer then.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

You are really @#$%, OK then you are now 21 year 4 college, is that OK with you?

4 days from now, answer will be given.

[troc]

Stop guessing ok? I'm not that old. I might be same age as u r or younger :p anyway I don't have time to play games with you anymore. Heading back to school on monday. It's been a long and good weekend >:-D< I'll come back next week and look at your answer then. and stop putting problems up, it's not like anyone is answering it besides me :))

As I say I don't know how to answer all problems that are below my level. I'll be back and "tâm sự" with u and see what u post next week. Don't miss me :x

[Anaconde the Reaper]

I love your style, ha ha, for the reason that the closer I know about you the more ambiguous you know me... Now no need to guess I have taken both the age and col.year of you.. And me, the Immortal Reaper, even God has to ask himself who I am?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Okey dokey, now the little answer:
1 = 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/7 + 1/42.
Max sum = 54 (sure 54 > 37). However, I give troc a B for his answer, for that 37 is the second largest.(haha, troc, you can celebrate for that!)
This can be solved by "mò", but it has a good sol. The solution is not very short, but I only give the short answer: we find that 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/6 = 1, (n = 3) has the max sum, and also the max number possible (6). Each number 1/n can be written as 1/(n+1) + 1/n(n+1). So, we replace 1/6 by 1/7 + 1/42 --> got the simple answer.
Troc, you have lost to this so-easy question (now you see it is easy, don't you?). So, I give you one more chance: solve the general problem (1/2+...+1/n=1). Give the answer to me.

[troc]

I'm back yeah that was good, consider I did my problem in 25 seconds by "mo`" and get a B it's pretty good. haha. 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 ... to infinity = 1, just mult denominator by 2 everytime adds up to 1. :x This one is right isn't it? I use Einstein relativity which makes my time = 10 times others so I only did this one in 1/10 seconds instead of 1 second by other people hahaha. >:-D< By the way I laerned how to graph things without using y = and can plot any graph now hihihi. >:-D< So don't give me graph again!

also same as your problem 1 + 1 + 1/2! + 1/3! ... infinity = e :-$

OK then you are now 21 year 4 college, is that OK with you?

a hem, what is that I dont' understand. Did u mean 21 years old or 4th year college? Pick one! Either one is wrong though. /:)

[Anaconde the Reaper]

ha, you still didn't get my question..
1/a1+1/a2+...+1/an, n is a number, not infinity.. Your answer is only correct when n is infinity - and it does not worth the effort.. Actually it is 1/2+1/3+...(this is what you have to find now..). Get the sum in relation to n, that is all I need.. (read carefully to what I said, don't ;misunderstand again..)

PS: If it is not I am so generous, I would have given you an F- for your - hic - awfully lunatic, hehe.. Good luck, baby!

[troc]

eh didn't u say this: solve the general problem (1/2+...+1/n=1). Give the answer to me.
You better make it clear. Now u said this 1/a1+1/a2+...+1/an, n is a number, not infinity
What is a in this case, what is n? constant? what are u looking for? a or n or both or what? I guess looking for n? Say clearer. This is not a class so don't give letter grade, I really don't like seeing those haha. I'm going to a party and come back drunk, u better give me the right question otherwise, I post junk up while I'm drunk haha.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Ah you have appeared, I am finding some infos, however you make me bored again: a1, a2, a3 ... an (n is a pos. integer>=1, a is a symbol) are all numbers which is put in the eq 1/a1 + 1/a2 +... +1/an = 1, so that the sum of those n numbers is maximum. Find that sum, in relation to n and post it here. (e.g if n = 4 then sum = 54). Get that, madman?

[Cigar]

Ok,have you already answer this question?,let me reply:
1/2+1/3+1/7+1/42=1
And 2+3+7+42=54
I think this is the right answer.

[Temptation Island]

n=1, a1=1, S1 is 1
n=2, a1=2, a2=2, S2 is 4
n=3, a1=2, a2=3, a3=6, S3 is 11
n=4, a1=2, a2=3, a3=7, a4=42, S4 is 54
n=5, a1=2, a2=3, a3=7, a4=43, a5=1806, S5 is 1861.
where Sn is sum of n terms
and so on...
an is a product of a1,a2,a3,...a(n-1).
Sn=S(n-1)+an+1

[Anaconde the Reaper]

I expected for something else, but, I found that it is too terrific to write in here.. So, Temptation Island has got a perfect answer, congratulations! Tomorrow I will comeback/

[Anaconde the Reaper]

New kiddie quiz:
There is a sequence:
1
11
21
1211
111221
312211
....
(if you want to know, look at topic "are you a riddlenut", Eisenhow gave the answer and I gave the first 10 of it)
However, we find in this sequence only digit 1, 2 or 3. Is there a digit 4 or others? If yes, prove it or give an example. If no, prove. Answer as concise as possible.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Answer: no. example if we have 1111, it turns out to be 21 or whatever (like 21-11-12 --> 31-12, it can not stand with four same digits - we can disprove this). Very easy..

[Anaconde the Reaper]

This question is a good one! It is an English word - which contains all 5 vowels - only 5 - a-e-i-o-u - in that order. I saw it in a vocab. part of a book. I have found two others. So there are three I know. Who can find any?

[Eisenhow]

This question is a good one! It is an English word - which contains all 5 vowels - only 5 - a-e-i-o-u - in that order. I saw it in a vocab. part of a book. I have found two others. So there are three I know. Who can find any?

I'm not sure 'bout the answer, but I believe they must be quite long words, aren't they?

Can you tell us your answer, Anaconde? I'm really curious to know.

[troc]

hmmm I just answered and the crap doesn't come through. :x But anyway let me think there are lots of words with 5 vowels in it like: equation (very short) eutopia, unforgivable, boundaries ... and so much more. Let me see ah did I mention abstentious? what else ... tragedious ... let me see maybe there is more anenimous (not sure if this spells right) bacterious ... maybe I need to find more to study for my GRE he' he'.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Those words are all not in dictionary, you just "created" the words and tell they are English. Like bacterious, you invented from bacteria --> no way! The word must be found in normal E. dictionaries, as now many "new" words are invented by replacing "y" with "ious". Like tragedious-abstentious, they are not in MTD - just "invented" words. Tragedious - they use tragic instead.

This is one of the correct-and popular word (for any guy curious): abstemious. There are several others(I have found more!). I upgrade my answer: Find the shortest English word that has all these vowels in that order a-e-i-o-u). It has even fewer letters than abstemious.(^_^)

There are lots of words that work with vowels in any order, here are some of the short ones:


7 letters:


sequoia


8 letters:
dialogue
equation
euphoria
jalousie


9 letters:

auctioned
armouried
armouries
aureoling
authorise
autopsied
autopsies
behaviour
cautioned
cautioner
cointreau
dialogued
dialogues
education
emulation
equations
equivocal
euphorias
exudation
facetious
favourite
housemaid
inoculate
inquorate
nefarious
odalisque
pneumonia
savouries
savourier
tenacious
vapourise
veracious
vexatious

[troc]

hmmm they all have english meaning. Like tragedious is from tragedy ( a adj adv derived from tragedy.) Bacterious is derived from bacteria, just like mysterious is a word derived from mystery. Its just adj that's why it's not in some dictionary or some say to refer to the noun definition.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Oh no, that doesn't mean every word have its equivalent adj. Some have, some don't. Because it doesn't have, some guys like troc invent an adj for himself. He doesn't even know that word has an exact adj already. Bacterium has bacterial as its only adj, not bacterious(!). Tragedy has tragic as its adj, not tragedious. If you derive adj(s) so funny like that, I can also have words like: deputious (deputy), therapious... hahaha, troc, stop your inventions right away, and do what is right.

[troc]

ặc ặc, u are so dum ... go to www.dictionary.com or anything world encyclopedia or something and type in "tragedious" see what they give u. They also have an example of a sentence fragment that you can use. Huhuhu, bacterious is also in my book! how can it not be an english word when they put it in a book for students to study :)) My book defines Bacterious as "a rare type and elusive bacteria" and ur saying it's not exist, that I make these up!
This is not my inventions, this is fact!
Buy a book/dictionary written by Philip Bennett, Stuart Kidd,and Paul Browning and see how they define these words. If u can't find the word doesn't mean it's not exist in english. Even if a dictionary said "it's not exist" it might exists because not all dictionaries cover every single word!

[Anaconde the Reaper]

You are the dum. A word is acceptable when there are people who know and use it.

Go search Google to find these damn words, there are no more than 200 results of all 10 billions websites, and that mean your word is not accepted - no one knows and accepts it. Go and find abstemious, you will find a million. That is the difference, dim-brained dummy. For sure words with so few search results like that has no job to stay here. Even if any dictionaries have it.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Not to argue any more, any word here or anywhere must have more than 1000 search results on Google to be accepted - if not they are only "weird stuff". Is that OK?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Answer for last q: facetious, arsenious,..(?)
Some more word question: (you must remember that only words with >1000 search results on Google are accepted - because some guys may find weird words in advanced dictionaries which you don't have - so this is equal for anyone(^_^)):

- Find a word with 5 consecutive vowels.

- Find a word with only 5 (or more!) and same vowels (e.g: a-a-a-a-a). No other vowels. I found this for a, e, i, but haven't found for o and u.
They are all quite common.

[Eisenhow]

Well, I think you two both have a really good command of the English vocabulary, then you don't need to argue so much about words.

I once read a book with the title "Crazy English" when I was in Singapore, but it's a pity that I didn't buy it (could not afford it). I believe there are answers to your questions in it. Is that right?

[Eisenhow]

Answer for last q: facetious, arsenious,..(?)
Some more word question: (you must remember that only words with >1000 search results on Google are accepted - because some guys may find weird words in advanced dictionaries which you don't have - so this is equal for anyone(^_^)):

- Find a word with 5 consecutive vowels.

Hey, I've found the answers to your questions. And here they are:

1. Words which contain all five vowels in alphabetical order: "facetious", "abstemious", "annelidous", "arsenious"

2. Words which contain all five vowels in reverse alphabetical order "duoliteral", "subcontinental", "uncomplimentary"

[Eisenhow]

Now can you call out the longest word in English with no repeated letters? :-/

If you can, you're surely have a very good command of the English vocabulary.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

OK, I will think of it later (I am still tired), so, I give a q here for fun:
Do you know a company (it is quite famous!!) which has about five hundreds employees:
* 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
* 7 have been arrested for fraud
* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
* 117 have directly or indirectly
bankrupted at least 2 businesses
* 3 have done time for assault
* 71 cannot get a credit card due
to bad credit
* 14 have been arrested on
drug-related charges
* 8 have been arrested for
shoplifting
* 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
* 84 have been arrested for drunk
driving in the last few years
(you should know that I answered this one correctly in .. 0.01 second!!)

[Eisenhow]

Hic... Really? You did answer that question in 0.01 second? Incredible!

Anyway, let me think over it for a few second. I wonder if there is any trick here? Could you tell me?

[Eisenhow]

Well, here it is. This answer is from the web:

This is funny and sad at the same time........

Can you imagine working for a company that has a
little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:
* 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
* 7 have been arrested for fraud
* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
* 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
* 3 have done time for assault
* 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
* 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
* 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
* 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
* 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year

Can you guess which organization this is?
Give up yet?
It's the 535 members of the US Congress

[Eisenhow]

And here is a more detailed explanation:

It comes originally from Capitol Hill Blue (www.capitolhillblue.com). I do not know if all of it is true, but I have no reason to disbelieve the reports. Other sources have reported similar happenings.

You can find a series of articles starting at http://chblue.com/aug1999/081699/criminalclass1%2D081699.htm . The e-mail you reference seems to have come from a summary of this series issued by the Libertarian Party in "NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY," (http://www.lp.org/) on September 2, 1999. I reproduce most of this release from their site:

"For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary. Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222. E-Mail: 76214.3676@Compuserve.com

"From wife-beaters to drunk drivers, Congress is a crime wave, study says

WASHINGTON, DC -- A new investigation reveals an astonishingly large number of wife-beaters, drunks, shoplifters, check-bouncers, business failures, and drug abusers in the U.S. House and Senate -- which ought to make Americans think carefully before turning to Washington, DC for moral leadership, the Libertarian Party
said today.

"Mark Twain once said Congress may be America's only 'distinct criminal class' -- and this new study suggests he was correct," said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. "If even half these charges are true, expecting Congress to serve as a moral
role model is like asking Bill Clinton to serve as a poster boy for monogamy."

According to an investigation by Capitol Hill Blue, an online publication that covers federal politics, a remarkable number of U.S.
Representatives and U.S. Senators may have spent as much time in a jail cell as on Capitol Hill.

After researching public records, newspaper articles, civil court transcripts, and criminal records, Capitol Hill Blue discovered that:

* 29 members of Congress have been accused of spousal abuse.

* 7 have been arrested for fraud.

* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks.

* 117 have bankrupted at least two businesses.

* 3 have been arrested for assault.

* 71 have credit reports so bad they can't qualify for a
credit card.

* 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges.

* 8 have been arrested for shoplifting.

* 21 are current defendants in lawsuits.

* And in 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving, but released after they claimed Congressional immunity.

Capitol Hill Blue did not list the names of all the individual members of Congress accused of the various crimes, but did note that some were "serial offenders" with extensive tracks records of fraud or violence.


For example, reported Capitol Hill Blue, Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL) has a "long, consistent record of deceit," including tens of thousands of dollars in unpaid bills, allegations of bribery, and numerous lawsuits against her. And Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) faces charges that he beat his wife, has a history of barroom brawls while mayor of Alexandria, and has publicly stated that he likes "to hit people."


"With a rap sheet like that, you have to wonder why Americans expect Congress to solve the problem of crime -- since Congress seems to be causing so much crime," said Dasbach. "In fact, if this study is correct, the best way to cut crime may be to lock up Congress and throw away the key."


And given the obvious economic incompetence of so many Senators and Representatives, you have to wonder why voters trust them with the federal budget, he said.


"Here are politicians who routinely bankrupt businesses, write bad checks, engage in fraudulent practices, and have bad credit," said Dasbach. "That could explain why the country is more than $5 trillion in debt, why federal programs are so wasteful, and
why taxes are always going up. Are these really the kind of economically illiterate people we want to trust with our money?" If nothing else, said Dasbach, the Capitol Hill Blue investigation may help puncture the myth that Senators and Representatives are somehow superior to ordinary Americans, or better equipped to solve the nation's problems. "By its very nature, politics tends to attract venal people who crave power, who want to control the lives of other people, and who think they are above the law," he noted. "This study makes that
point clear -- and illustrates that when it comes to politicians, the only thing worse than their voting records are their criminal
records."

[Anaconde the Reaper]

To tell the truth, I read only .. "500 members", the word "congress" appeared right away. The only thing I needed to testify was that the company had >500members --> I made a sum 435 + 100, and confirmed the answer. One of the reasons: I am in the US!

[Anaconde the Reaper]

May be this is the answer(longest word with no repeated letter): uncopyrightable
Is this it?

[Eisenhow]

May be this is the answer(longest word with no repeated letter): uncopyrightable
Is this it?

Yeah it is. Very good! You really have a good command of the vocabulary.

And you're living in the US? Then no wonder why your English is so good.

[Anaconde the Reaper]

(pszz, don't overestimate me - bunch of fools are in this country)
Answer for question "English word with only 1 vowel appear 5 times"
a: abracadabra (very famous word)
e: defenselessness
i: disinhibiting

Someone find a word for o and u?

[Eisenhow]

Hey, in my opinion, the word 'defenselessness' can be made into a plural form 'defenselessnesses', and then it turns out to repeat the vowel 'e' 6 times, not only 5.

I can't think of any word with only the vowel 'o' or 'u' which appears 5 times. I don't think such words exist in English.

[Eisenhow]

Now let's see if you can answer this question:

What is the longest English word consisting only of vowels, and, also, the English word with the most consecutive vowels?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

Hmm, defenselessness naturally is a non-count noun, it doesn't actually have its plural form. Defenselessnesses may exist, but its meaning is, ridiculous. You can search Google for this word, it has only 37 results. As I said, only non-scientific words with >1000 results may be accepted.
And I have to tell, now I know where you get these questions from, that site is some kind of crazy, it takes words from nowhere and even other languages. Its answers are bad.

The longest normal English word with only vowels, I regret but, without "y", it has only 2 letters(there are several words like this). With y, it has 3(eye,aye).
The word with most consecutive vowels, I think it is queueing.(5).

[Eisenhow]

Hmm, defenselessness naturally is a non-count noun, it doesn't actually have its plural form. Defenselessnesses may exist, but its meaning is, ridiculous. You can search Google for this word, it has only 37 results. As I said, only non-scientific words with >1000 results may be accepted.
And I have to tell, now I know where you get these questions from, that site is some kind of crazy, it takes words from nowhere and even other languages. Its answers are bad.

The longest normal English word with only vowels, I regret but, without "y", it has only 2 letters(there are several words like this). With y, it has 3(eye,aye).
The word with most consecutive vowels, I think it is queueing.(5).

Actually, the longest English word consisting only of vowels, and, also, the English word with the most consecutive vowels is Euouae (6 letters).

Can you find another one?

[Eisenhow]

Then, what is the longest word in English with only ONE vowel?

Can you answer this quickly within today?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

I said, I know where you got this from. I also know euouae before.However, this word is not a normal English word. And I do not accept it. No way. W2 defines it as "A word formed from the vowels of seculorum amen, ending the Gloria Patri." You see, this definition means euouae is not even a word, but is an abbreviation. Therefore, queueing is the choice.

Eisenhow, you must see this more clearly, some words may exist but it has no meaning at all. Some words are taken from names of places, or some "deformation" of other words. I do not consider them word. You see, any word in my answer is popular word, I never give weird words.

Let me answer your question. That word is strengths. W2 contains a word, psychorhythms, but this word has less than 1000 results, therefore I ban it from eyesight. Remember: I do not accept words with less than 1000 search results. Remember that. Do not let me repeat again.

Question: find a 14 letter word, with a pair of 2 consecutive letters is a chemical element symbol. (e.g banana is a 6 letter one with 3 pairs of element symbols)

[Eisenhow]

Okie. I've got the rule now. Sorry!

I think your question is quite difficult. I don't think I have the answer.

Can you answer it then, pls?

[Anaconde the Reaper]

The word is PrAcTiCaLiTiEs (you see, it has .. 300,000 search results)

The elements are Praseodymium, Actinium, Titanium, Calcium, Lithium, Titanium, Einsteinium.

[ipridian_elf]

umm.. can anyone tell me what exactly is "W2" that anaconde is talking about ? (dumb question to bring up the really old topic ^^)

[Justwonder]

W2 = Webster's Second New International Dictonnary of The English Language. It's a huge dictonary that's usually used in public libraries, colleges, and universities. I have the 3rd edition at home just to show off. ;)

[ipridian_elf]

Isn't google better at finding "search results" that Anaconde is talking ? .. I mean, a dictionnary isn't updated each day, but google is updated each second... even millisecond, the speed at which information on the net is published.

[Justwonder]

The critical problem with online info is that it's not always 100% true and it is not absolute reliable. Published materials, on the other hands, are always more reliable.