Education

[Hank Williams]

What do you think about Education? Just enter here and share your thoughts with each other about it. For example, talking about the education diffrences between two countries, talking about your habits, and so on.
Let me go first, I'd like to ask you all that "Do you like working with partners or alone? Why?"

[Guo Jia]

"Do you like working with partners or alone? Why?"

With partners,of course.The more people that have joined together,the more chance for perfect works that have been done!
"One tree can not build a moutain
But three ones can do!"

[Cigar]

some times I walk alone
I wonder aloud...
If you watching over me
something far aboud...
**********************
there's no need to work with partner in some circumstance...for example,when you create a new poem,mụn...but friendship can make everything become possible.
With my friend's helping,at last I can climb to the highest floor of the university..if I don't have any friend like them,may be I will fail all the exam in my college
In this room,if BM work alone,can you imagine what happen next???

[Andromeda]

I will say that, I will do alone myself! I do not know why I do like that! However, I once did coperate with my friends and we had our argument! So on, I did do all works alone, my teacher asked to do assignment together with other students but I ingored his oder!

[Hank Williams]

And me, I prefer working alone to working with partners, but sometimes working with partners let you solve the problem more correctly. In other words, I like working alone cos I totally believe in myself whenever I get trouble. For example, when I'm in an exam, I have to work alone, of course, but especially with English, I can overcome every trouble cos I feel very confident whenver I take a look at the clock :).

[middleofnowhere]

What exactly are you talking about? EDUCATION, you still don't show out something or ideas which refer to that topic.
What do you mean when you use the word "EDUCATION" here?

[Cigar]

The first question is:what do you think about the education in VietNam???
I see we have the low level tecnique..so our education can't be good for every_one.
When I do some designment..I must use some old document,may be they have published at the 60s year>_<...and sometimes they are so'lac hau"..we must improve our tecnique by education first:((

[huynhnguyen]

The first question is:what do you think about the education in VietNam???
I see we have the low level tecnique..so our education can't be good for every_one.
When I do some designment..I must use some old document,may be they have published at the 60s year>_<...and sometimes they are so'lac hau"..we must improve our tecnique by education first:((

I had the same thought as you do until last year ^^ but I just figured it out that the education in vn is not that bad, at least in Math and Science (these subject wouldn't be obsoleted at any time because they are the principles for any development), the only thing vnese education lack of is facilities and technology. A tiny school pack with no less than 1000 student at a time, a class with 40 student, no wonder why tutoring is necessary, no library nor computer lap with a fast internet access. Let just say we don;t have an good enough environment :-? and all we need is budget :)). Anyway writting essays a major subject in highschool and thereafter is a major mistake, first I hate that subject X( (lots of guys do) and it do us no good (unless you wanna be a journalist). Why wouldn't they make writting essays an occasional project (like history project, big one) or homework (with varied topic that wouldn't the found in any sources) and student must write it on their own, that's how student can improve their writting skill and show teachers their thought or ideal not some crap that we just memorized and copy it to our test and have grade for it (like I did all the time :)))

Back to the first question: It depend, if the project I don't like, I would work with a partner and let him do the jobs , ortherwise I would do it alone (more work but I can experience it fully ^^), it kinda dirty though 0:)

[Cigar]

We not bad at the high schôl level but it tooooooo bad in university,there's only a few quality Colege like DHBK..low technique,hu hu.
I feel jealot with everyone who study aboard:((

[Tu si]

I prefer work alone to work with partners but I always work with partners. If I work alone, I'll do very difficult and very bore, but work with partners sometimes make me angry. Too many people, and some of them don't work so I like to work alone but not often.

[minhso]

Leave me alone of course ^_^
But sometimes I also break the habit just to get closer to a cute one (ehèm:x)
And now, it's a real big prob cos I'm a computer programer :(( , this kind of work must be care by many people (and VNese people are not good in co-operating, agree ? )

what do you think about the education in VietNam???
It's suckkkkkkkkkkkk8-|

Sometimes I want to curse it, curse the dumd teachers. 3:-o
Last week, I took an exam on Java. The questions are not tough, but they're too long. We only have 90' to finish 3 projects (writing test). Not as students in Genetic-DHBK, they have 120' for only one. Geez :-s

The next subject is Visual C++. The computer has been f***ed up, its compiler must be damaged, it could not out put the simpliest thing for me. I called the teacher -->of course he cannot fix it as always --> his face turned red X( --> mad --> he shouted "I told you to bring your own computer, why don't you ? I take no responsible in this case" and sumthin' like "allow you to retake the exam" (yeah, he granted me a favor, ****).

feew 5MP^_^

[yunatidus]

any body learn in english Highcouncil

[Guo Jia]

Ouh minhso,bad,bad,bad!

Last week, I took an exam on Java. The questions are not tough, but they're too long. We only have 90' to finish 3 projects (writing test). Not as students in Genetic-DHBK, they have 120' for only one. Geez

Just because teachers have thought students of your university are better than ones of DHBK.
I think you should pride of that instead! :p

The next subject is Visual C++. The computer has been f***ed up, its compiler must be damaged, it could not out put the simpliest thing for me. I called the teacher -->of course he cannot fix it as always --> his face turned red --> mad --> he shouted "I told you to bring your own computer, why don't you ? I take no responsible in this case" and sumthin' like "allow you to retake the exam"

Was you read requirements of questions in your exam?
Maybe,maybe fixing computer is one of that requirements!:))

[fenix]

Hee hee , team work is something hard to find in Vietnamese Education , isn't it ?
But we have to train somehow . Nowaday team work is what people looking for while hiring their employee.
So my advice is find some " cute one " ( urly one can be good also ) and say to 'em : " Can you help me one this / that ? " It's not real team work but it's a good start , don't you think ^^ ?
Well, I don't really know about this . I'm the one who be asked all the time ( just kidding :p )

[dieukydieu]

Education in VietNam may be stricter and more difficult than some others, I don't know why but i can say so. I think the culture of VietNam went on and on in the past and developped very much, and now we can be proud of it!!!
The Viet Nam's civilization is over 4000 years and the education could be longer!!
The tradition and moral of Vietnamese people can be suggested that very conplex in the past and in this moment, it is easier and easier due to the development of society and the world nowadays contacting and communicating among very modern!!! so that education can make people remember the past and find the way to develop in the near and real future!
but in the society, some of people can't realise this, and they will be very illiteratural and immoral!!!!
But we can hope that this is at least and the part of this can be released, and the society still develop much more!!!!

[Cigar]

You can bring your final thinking about edcation in viet Nam when you complete the University....no thing
The empty feeling for me+_______+
Hmmmm,may be i lost my Mp for this posting,he he.

[Guo Jia]

I think we should try learn more knowledges and They will become useful to make our future life better.
Every times when you are feeling boring to go to school,let think about your future and maybe it will be a reason for you to try...

[dieukydieu]

Yeh mụn ruồi says all right! When you feel sad , can think something good about …something, and can feel a little good for you!
Yeh Ciga, after you graduate at some college or university, you can have a different sight of the Vietnamese Education, yeah rite! But when in high school, you also see something of this! Teachers are less and less teaching, and oblige pupils have to think, realise the problems in the lessons! Teachers aren’t relaxing but suggesting pupils using brain and developing skills! Yeah, applying the foreign education methods into ours can improve our level! Upgrade our realization and understanding!
Thinking about education in old age, you can see that teachers read or write too much and pupils write and write and … don’t understand much! Keke!!!!… very relaxing & interesting! But when testing or examing, pupils don’t have ability and posibility to do themselves or they must learn by heart all lessons.! That is very hard!
Now, we study hard, and we can take an exam more easily !!!! :)) :)) :))

[Cigar]

I think we have two way:
By tide rules:Pupil will have the high discripline..but they have poor ability to creat something..so that just the way we learn in high school.
By wide rules:Student have time to discover the world by themselves,but there was the unexpect affect:student become very lazy nowaday..they even use the document(life guard) in their exam..the falculty can't check them all...so they will become useless when they graduate:((

[vBulletin]

Education, It's really bad to talk about education nowadays, the pupils must learn many more object, the teacher work for money only , there is seldom "real " teacher. And there are many troubles to tell about the Vietnamese education. You say, i say and the other say!!! They are bored for students, even in the college and university too, they learn and learn like the machines and graduated but the knowledge that they get after years in school is only the theory and theory!~!! that's bad when they become an engineer and come to work for a foreign company they get a hight salary but that "hight" is only a small part when we compare it with the salary of a foreign engineer, they treat the Vietnamese Engineer like a worker under their construction. Bad!!! Our country will never grow strongly and become a powerful country when the education is not improved

[GCN[vn]]

Some more advanteges is The ministy of education in vietnam is so bad ,moreover nearly all good student want to study abroad ,its really bad ....

[Chrono]

i hate hearing that but the fact can be denied >__< . despite of that , we can get well-educated in everywhere , all we need is our determination .

[vanity]

These day, the only way for the students who are on the threshold of life is to pass the Entrance College Examination , which is thought to be a decisive turning point in the life and the career of young people. Luckily, i passed the Exam .I long to see the first day when i go to school.But the facts were not my desire .I was too disapointed :-s . The teacher just read and we wrote down like a puppet. I had ever thought that in college teaching is more creative than in high school.For that reason , i rarely go to my class anymore.
"Do you like working with partners or alone? Why?" I prefer working alone to working with partners because i easily get frustrated . I can't bear who obliges me to do or not to do something.I hate being commanded.Maybe i'll own a private company in the future 0:)

[lemoney]

"Do you like working with partners or alone? Why?" I prefer working alone to working with partners because i easily get frustrated
…Unfortunately, maid…your thought, I must say that you won’t able to archive success in future work….you know the growing work-group tendency is one of determined conditions nowadays…Whether you like it or not, I think you best thing shouldn’t put forward the answer like that after get that question in certain of interview…I don’t know which ology you’re studying but I don’t believe whoever could success without one’s partners adapting…

…You said “i easily get frustrated” and “I can't bear who obliges me to do or not to do something.I hate being commanded”…It appears bit of contradictions to some extent… Don’t you believe in the ability you have in the face of partners or your big haughtiness is so strong that you can’t stand down under imposing by anyone ?…

…Anyway, I hope that I could work in work-group environment where my skills is appreciated exactly or improved more by various personalities, abilities from my partners in future (^o^)…

[Genie]

Work together :)) it's difficult to share benefit :)) Just Joke! never mind
But it's really a problem, fighting may happen if it's not clearly
When I was a child,I like work alone and play with friends. Anytime I created something I show it and take all advantages of it,now Working with partners, everything r born from our workgroup must be share in fair regarless you may the one who work hardest in group.

[Hank Williams]

Actually, I prefer working alone to working with partners. I really don't know why, but I think that I'll be more "active" and "free". However, when studying foreign languages, we should have at least one partners, so that we can make conversations as well as share our knowledge with each other in order to improve ourselves.

[Cigar]

Hmm,in some lesson..my falculty talk about aboard_education..
Our Vietnamese have the horde of Bull,and we "lùa" them to aboard..and then we force them to come back to the country land,and those Bull becomes doctors all.
Just the funny talk,but we can explain about it by many ways..

[Hank Williams]

Yeah, but I think it'll be better if the government cut a deal with those who study abroad. They must promise that after studying, they'll return home.
Today, I still feel confused that a lot of advanced students and engineers leave the country to join other developed countries, our education system has been bleeding.

[vuminhtan_84]

nowadays,many companies;especially, run state companies want to employ well educated students(i mean students with advanced degrees).As a result,students with low degrees will soon be unemployed,i think that's unjust.How sad.But we have to accept it,that's the reason why pupils and students now have to work hard in order to have good degrees to have good jobs,they don't care about anything,but study,just work harder and harder to have good jobs and not make their parents disappointed.
I think study abroad is expensive(exclude out standing students) and not many family can afford it;however, i think study in our country is pretty enough for us(not as enough as study abroad)

[lemoney]

...Right ? Study abroad make me think of the truth that Vietnamese people are so rich :)). You could imagine that the incredibly tuition for each studying semester/year if compare to GDP in Vietnam. I can't believe in how they could afford enough money for their children. Especially, some who working in national/local company or organization.

[Hank Williams]

Of course they have a "steady" background, buddy. Imagine that your dad is a director or a chairman of some company, and your family is "loaded", so what the hell will your money use for? Of course it's used for what makes you more "famous", and besides, it also help you "keep-up" with others.

[vuminhtan_84]

right! What would they do if they have too much money? Of course they will do everything to satisfy their children,or they will have their children educated abroad.
There is a fact that we can't deny now is that children whose families are rich their will is not as strong as poor children,they are not good at study(most of them,not all).If they can't pass entrance examination, their parents are sure to let them go abroad to study

[Cigar]

Hummm,I think that is very bad.
But I think in the very short times ,not very far...,the social will not easy like that.
every one must use his brain or his strength to improve what he can do,he will no longer rely on the famous of his parents.
So,to continue exist in that competitive worlds,we must work..not sit alone and wait the rice come to our throat....

[vuminhtan_84]

yeah,you may be right,but in the world full of temptations nowadays,how many people can overcome it?And most of indulged children now always rely on their parents, they think having lots of money is everything,so they aren't of fraid of anything.They don't have to think much about life and what they have to make them better.That's a tendency of youth now

[Cigar]

Damn it.
It will break in the future,i believe that
The chicken can't break the egg shell,and he will nolonger have the ability to break it.
I am that chicken,and I want to break the shell by my self,not by something else...
But seems like my spirit at the low LV status,so I rarely do it,da*n it ..[-x

[vuminhtan_84]

that's the reason why i said:"how many people can overcome it?",if you understand, you have to do something helpful for your future before it's too late(If you don't want to regret when you are older)