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Eisenhow
20-10-2003, 09:29
Can you follow what's going on in the following passage?


For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.

Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

Anaconde the Reaper
20-10-2003, 13:07
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replaced either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only case in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same consonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replacing it with "i" and Year 4 might fix the "g/j" anomaly once and for all.

Generally, then, the improvement would continue year by year with Year 5 doing away with useless double consonants, and Years 6-12 or so modifying vowels and the remaining voiced and unvoiced consonants. By year 15 or so, it would finally be possible to make use of the redundant letters "c", "y" and "x" -- by now just a memory in the minds of old doodles -- to replace "ch", "sh", and "th" respectively.

Finally, then, after some 20 years of orthographical reform, we would have a logical, coherent spelling in use throughout the English-speaking world.

It is so tiresome.. I should take a break..

Eisenhow
20-10-2003, 13:30
Ha..ha..ha..... You have a real good mind, Anaconde. I highly admire it!

BROOM
20-10-2003, 14:42
hix hix! both of you are so good at spelling! but i am not! i am bad at pronunciation! and ... let disscuss about it more! i will read all of it, and dream of a day i can be as good as you! thanks

Eisenhow
20-10-2003, 15:08
Well, your knowledge about English pronunciation will surely improve when you practice more.

Then it's a good chance for you to practice here, 'cos I'm eager to discuss more with everybody about it.

Have any of you got any new ideas about pronunciation?

Anaconde the Reaper
24-10-2003, 10:30
Read this short paragraph. It is written in International Transcription. If you can understand it and tell where it comes from, your English is sure to be good.

Wail ði ‘i:vl mait ∂v ð∂ Da:k Lo:d ‘So:r∂n swo:md aut tu ‘k∂nk∂ o:l ‘midl-∂:θ, ‘Froudou and Sæm ‘strΛgl di:p ‘int∂ ‘Mo:d∂, si:t ∂v ‘So:r∂ns ‘pau∂. Tu di’fi:t ð∂ Da:k Lo:d, ði ∂’k∂:sid Riη ∂v ‘Pau∂ hæd t∂ bi: di’stroi in ð∂ ‘fai∂z ∂v Maunt Du:m.

Eisenhow
24-10-2003, 11:41
Read this short paragraph. It is written in International Transcription. If you can understand it and tell where it comes from, your English is sure to be good.

Wail ði ‘i:vl mait ∂v ð∂ Da:k Lo:d ‘So:r∂n swo:md aut tu ‘k∂nk∂ o:l ‘midl-∂:θ, ‘Froudou and Sæm ‘strΛgl di:p ‘int∂ ‘Mo:d∂, si:t ∂v ‘So:r∂ns ‘pau∂. Tu di’fi:t ð∂ Da:k Lo:d, ði ∂’k∂:sid Riη ∂v ‘Pau∂ hæd t∂ bi: di’stroi in ð∂ ‘fai∂z ∂v Maunt Du:m.

Well, I believe this comes from Lord of the Rings or something. I don't think I can transform it all into normal English, but anyway, I'll try:

While the evil might of the Dark Lord [...] out to [...] middle earth, F and Sam struggle deep into [...] power. To defeat the Dark Lord, the [...] ring of power had to be destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom.

The things in [...] are those I couldn't transform into normal English. However, I notice that many of them are personal nouns, which are quite difficult for me 'cos I haven't read or seen The Lord of the Rings before.

Eisenhow
24-10-2003, 11:50
Read this short paragraph. It is written in International Transcription. If you can understand it and tell where it comes from, your English is sure to be good.

Wail ði ‘i:vl mait ∂v ð∂ Da:k Lo:d ‘So:r∂n swo:md aut tu ‘k∂nk∂ o:l ‘midl-∂:θ, ‘Froudou and Sæm ‘strΛgl di:p ‘int∂ ‘Mo:d∂, si:t ∂v ‘So:r∂ns ‘pau∂. Tu di’fi:t ð∂ Da:k Lo:d, ði ∂’k∂:sid Riη ∂v ‘Pau∂ hæd t∂ bi: di’stroi in ð∂ ‘fai∂z ∂v Maunt Du:m.

Well, at last I think I've found the proper names in The Lord of the Rings to answer your question. And here is the complete text:

While the evil might of the Dark Lord Sauron swarmed out to conquer all Middle-Earth, Frodo and Sam struggled deep into Mordor, seat of Sauron's power. To defeat the Dark Lord, the accursed Ring of Power had to be destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom.

And this text truly comes from The Lord of the Rings. Hope it is correct! :cool:

Anaconde the Reaper
25-10-2003, 07:06
I see, you have done quite a great job. Actually, I did have to spent time to "transform" the text from English into transcription, and sometimes I found it hard to transform names, and especially it took time writing those weird symbols.

Eisenhow
25-10-2003, 08:10
I see, you have done quite a great job. Actually, I did have to spent time to "transform" the text from English into transcription, and sometimes I found it hard to transform names, and especially it took time writing those weird symbols.

Well, it actually made me think for a while. But once I'd found some words, everything turned out to be quite easy. I just typed the words I'd found in the Google search, and out came the result.

Qawinusaukkr
02-11-2003, 17:10
I love English, so I always try to learn English well. In my opinion, I think, if you want to improve your spelling, the best way is that, you should practice regularly and hard. Of cours, you should listen to English by TV, radio or casstte... All of you, I think, very good at speaking, and I hope, I will be as good as you, too. Besides, you can write more about it to everyone, OK? Thanks. >:-D<

Hank Williams
03-11-2003, 10:31
Yea, a good way to improve speaking skill is to practice regularly, watch English movies or Neglish TV channels. I always practice my speaking skill by speaking along what people saying on TV, sometimes I sing along some favourtie English songs, and I usually look for English books, take them home and read them loudly.
Sometimes there a lot of people who have no one to talk with, so they still can practice by talking with themself.

dieukydieu
06-02-2004, 13:55
Oh, God !
Practising frequency is a torture! Every day must spell spell and spell. Feeling very boring! And sometimes feel tired because my mouth and teeth work very hard ! Oh sorry, please dont misunderstand! :)) simply i dont like spelling because i dont like to speak to foreigners. When i meet foreigners , the best way is to ... be away ! you know! I like vietnamese people and vietnamese language because that is my mother tongue and very ...easy to pronounce~ easy to use and easy to ... translate keke! Maybe you say that im the conservative and i dont oppose that. I Accept......